F-5's all feel pretty weaksauce for game META

Don’t shove words which I didn’t tell into my mouth.

I told ‘how it possibly goes wrong if it gets AIM-9J too.’
while it also maintains flares which were stolen from ROC.
Go on. Steal AIM-9P too and be 11.0.

Bah, statshaming. Ran out of theory?

Seems you ended up with ‘your stat bad, you bad’. :|

Should I have chosen ‘moulded’, ‘spoiled’, or ‘bad mindset’ instead of just ‘bad’?

Don’t shove words which I didn’t tell into my mouth.

I am proposing it.

You really want it to be unbalanced too? AIM9J is an upgrade, but it’s just an aim9e that pulls 3 more g’s.

Go on. Steal AIM-9P too and be 11.0.

Being as anemic as it is? No thanks, it can’t even outrate a mig21mf, you want it to be in the same BR as the j7e? the very thing that can defeat an f-16c in a dogfight? Nah, thanks.

Bah, statshaming. Ran out of theory?

Who called me a bad american main? You started it, you’re childish and cannot cope with people defending themselves.

Seems you ended up with ‘your stat bad, you bad’. :|

You’re bad and have bad overall stats, and you still have the nerve to flag my posts that show me defending myself from your kindergarten tier arguments.

Should I have chosen ‘moulded’, ‘spoiled’, or ‘bad mindset’ instead of just ‘bad’?

Isn’t that just the same but worse cause it’s generalized to everything besides the USA? Which again, is completely untrue?

You’re entitled to giving opinions without having source, but what’s worse is that you’re entitled to ad hominem others and cry when they counter you back with truths that hurt (and go as far as cancelling them and their sources), in that case should I flag you too for misinformation and insults? idk, that sounds quite inmature.

Let me bring up the thread where you so obtusely kept saying that the f-18 in finland was “different” from other f18s of the branch. I said it’s an american plane with american radar and american missiles in the finnish nation, that said it shares the same bug all aircraft with the apg73 radar, but you kept saying “is finnish” as if that actually mattered.

Man up.

Edit: Just a tiny tip, that i can give you after seeing your stats

If you complain so much about the f-5c being “op” then fly something that is not an attacker and has a gun, it will very likely defeat it in a couple of dodges. Because you literally only fly attackers. Or even easier: wait for a sale, buy the f-5c.

I love how people are still saying you have a skill issue and talking about how they constantly dogfight with it. Like yes, it’s amazing for a 1v1 dogfight in Customs, but Pubs don’t allow that. You never see a proper turn fight without everyone third partying.

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Fun fact:


J-7E is 11.3BR in ARB, not 11.0.

By the way, I personally want to send every F-5 variant in 10.0-10.7 up to 11.0 while granting them AIM-9J/P.

You guys cried about AIM-9E for years, so I counterproposed the solution.
How could it possibly go wrong? :/

Of course, J-7D also should move up along with them.

Yes, I did. You are constantly blaming J-7D while you also undersell F-5C.
I dislike that mindset. Truly.

Blaming J-7D for shitstorm balance in 10BR is one thing.
But using it as one of the reasons why F-5C sucks is another.

Both of those need to be terminated from 10.7 and maybe F-5A/C finally can get rid of ‘that damn AIM-9E’ while in transit.

You checked my stats, so now you know I am not the J-7D owner. Right?

FYI, after Hunter F.6 in 9.7, there is no fighter with a gun in the tech tree until I get F-4K/M in 12.0.

There are no options to choose to fly a fighter to fight against it in this nation ffs.

If Gaijin was lazy enough to give copy-pasted indian MiG-21 without modernisation, then maybe I can fight back without suffering from junk like SHAR.

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to be fair if F5C had no flares and aim 9B the plane would be insanely broken as it would 9.3 9.7 where you cant do anything

If it really happens, Prays to allied Su-25 with R-60M will be only options to victims like Sea vixen or F-100D. :|

F100D would be currbed stomped by F5 which is why i like it how it is

it never did, it got retired before the ale-40 dispenser was introduced in the 70’s

also funny how you dont even respond to me huh
cant statshame? cant prove any of the lies you say? i wonder whats the reason xD

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oh i wonder if there is a way to check that for sure…


it just so happens that you are full of shit! the f-5c is better at EVERYTHING!

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Maybe in Gaijin’s alternative timeline in which the USA won the Vietnam War. :/

It is quite funny to see F-5C’s stolen dispenser while F-8E(FN) got granted any of these luxuries. XD

it also never had any flares afaik
and no way it would get its historical magic 2’s

In Gaijin’s illogical special treatment… which F-5C received.

Maaaybe F-8E(FN) became abomination of both F-8E(USN) and F-8E(FN) irl and steals dispensers from USN :P
(I dislike that idea as same as flares in F-5C)

i dont think gaijin actually cares at all, they are so painfully inconsistent on this stuff

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mig19s and anything with r60s would deal with it just fine.

Are you still on the same page of “R-60´s are unflarable” and “F-5C doesnt have cold engines”?

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no lol, j7d is meta but this does not mean the entire bracket is china dominated. In that bracket you also have: F-4E, the various F-5s, MiG-21SMT, MiG-21MF, MiG-23MLA, MiG-23MLD, Kurnass, JA37C as competitors

Oh no! France has a singular meta in the entirety of air RB! One that will surely fall probably in 1 patch to the next hottest jet where France will wait 5 more years (or never) for another meta! What will we do?

You should note I said

and not

“At rank 7+”

further, jet metas, especially at rank 7+ are unstable af and change pretty often… you are complaining about something that will not exist in a year. What WILL exist is the USA and USSR’s strangehold on the game’s meta where from rank 1 to rank 8 both nations consistently are in the top 3 nations for strong ass planes.

citation needed

No, it doesn’t. They are rear aspect missiles and do not get front aspect kills besides flukes.

You have to be ragebaiting atp

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you are the same person who a few years ago was saying the mig19 needed r60s to compete at 9.3 lmao

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Great, our infamous ‘boeing747cultist’ decided to run away from this topic and crawl his own topic which is aged a month.

Just as expected

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F-5 is good, first time playing any F-5 with the Swiss F-5E (played until i spaded it) and have an almost 2 K/D, most of the kills are from snipes while intersecting with guns so if you’re a not good player with the guns i can see that being a problem.

In fact after looking at it further i’m doing better in the F-5E than any german Rank VII planes, surely must be a bad plane then.

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except i’m not running away from this topic, i’m right about what i’m saying and you’re flying attackers without weapons and expecting they can win a dedicated mafia fighter breed.

I keep saying i am beating f-5s in things like mig21s and phantoms by simply getting the nose on place quicker than they do, besides why would you want to dogfight in a meta where staying fast and launching doppler missiles is more relevant than winning minute long rate fights? the f-5c was made to 1v1 aircraft above Vietnam, not to go 1v16 against planes it never faced.

All you do is cry about the f-5c being OP while refusing to put a remedy to it. In your case, flying attackers only.