you’re just throwing.
All I want is the j7d to go up, as it is the ONLY PLANE i die to on f-5c. Literally.
If you managed to kill something with an IR missile at THAT FAR
That is their plain skill issue.
With r13m? Well, that missile is side aspect so it can indeed lock on targets rear aspect further away than other missiles. And from 5km away? Well, no shid, that’s how j7d’s farm kills.
I don’t give a damn about sending it up.
We need to take care of both F-5C and J-7D at the same time.
Just let F-5C get unhistorical AIM-9J along with unhistorical AN/ALE-40, which they already got.
then it will be no problem.
If Gaijin get rid of ‘your only worthy opponent’, then you will be dominating the whole match.
Great. The Greatest Era, which America dominated 10BR match will come back.
And I will be permanently suffering from attacker jets. Thanks to British tech tree, which doesn’t grant any kind of fighter jets to fly against F-5C. Just let me have earlier variant of MiG-21 from india…
AFAIK, AIM-9G’s optimal range is 3km-ish and 9J/P has a shorter, because over that range, rocket booster got burnt and exhausted, so will going to freefall to target instead.
And if we consider R-13 are acts like AIM-9J equivalent, I believes that if you managed to hit F-5C with it over 5km away, it is both of your pure luck and their skill issue.
the f-5c will be balanced at 10.7 once it (and any other 10.7s) stop seeing ten j7d’s per team every match.
Ima be real, probably the strongest F-5 in the game is the F-5E FCU. And that’s because it gets good engines, and four missiles (two Aim-9Ps and two Python 3s)
I dunno if the new Premium F-5 in the french tree is better tier for tier, but I like having four missiles + good guns.
Correction: F-5C will be dominant at 10.7 if you stop seeing Four J-7D per team
unless you became a victim of uptier and face jets with higher BR.
Either F-5C or J-7D are broken.
Just… their specialisations are different, and J-7D’s specialisation fits better for the current meta.
Correction: F-5C will be dominant at 10.7 if you stop seeing Four J-7D per team
The F-5C never dominated at 10.7, with or without the j7d when even better aircraft like the f8u or the mig21 smt/mf or the kfir canard, aircraft that not only can simply not engage with the f-5 and kill it from far away, can also outdogfight it, sat at 10.3 alongside it and now still sit at 10.3 while the f-5c got moved up.
unless you became a victim of uptier and face jets with higher BR.
The MiG21 SMT does not do bad against mig23s, it can catch them up, one circle them and kill them head on with r60 or take down the r24r’s thanks to r60’s good speed and initial pull. The F-5C’s only hope against the MiG23M is for the mig23m to start one circling it at super slow speed with the wings folded back and keep turning into it’s guns. Otherwise, it will always have the upper hand no matter what.
Just… their specialisations are different, and J-7D’s specialisation fits better for the current meta.
The specialisation of the f-5c is completely undermined when it’s only redeeming qualities like energy retention and turn rate are negated with newer aircraft having BETTER turn rate and tighter turn radius and m39s being hyperdrag plinkers that tickle the backs of mig21s during point blank knife fights.
Do yourself a favor, fly something that is not a tornado or a vark or a harrier, you will see how good something like an SMT deals against many f-5s tailgating you, or a draken even if you don’t have flares, or even a phantom E. The moment the f-5 flies above 1500m your sparrows will nuke them even after they chaff your radar.
Nah, it was dominated by the BR radius along with another American jet before decompressing.
I meant when both F-8E and F-5C were 10.3, F-5E in 10.7, supported by A-10A and A-6E which acts like flying SAM to a flareless jet.
They literally steamrolled the match unless they had too much of A-10A or F-105D and did not have enough fighters to fight against enemy MiGs.
Strange, I had no problem when I tried M39 and firing it against an enemy IL-28 when I flew with B-57B.
I wonder how many times I should tell you that there are NO FIGHTER JETS EXISTS in the British tech tree in the BR radius of F-5C(9.7-10.7)?
Lightnings(9.3) are too low, Phantoms(12.0) are too high.
We just have no goddamn proper fighter jets to fight against these damn F-5C(or 21SMT, J-7D, or whatever you talk as ‘proper fighter jet’) ffs.
And when I take detouring with my Mirage in both France and Israel tree, enemy F-5C, which I saw were had no problem to fighting against allied fighter jets.
and the Sea Harrier FRS1 is a fighter. Might for some stupid reason have a strike aircraft designation, but it is and was a fighter first and foremost and should get its designation change.
FRS1 is Britains only fighter between 9.7 and 12.0
Well, even though that OP’s claim is annoying bc SHAR was a fighter jet.
Maybe in the current circumstance of War Thunder, OP’s claim may be parrrtially right. :/
SHAR will gonna have NO CHANCE against F-5C. :(
Unless F-5C main is dumb enough to not flare 9L.
Yeah… Though IRL the FRS1 kicked the living hell out of the F-5E.
But thats Gaijin for you…
But yeah. F-5C is one of the most handheld aircraft I can think of
Shhhhh, if we mention IRL performance and statistics between SHAR and F-5E Aggressor.
They will claim ‘skill issue’ even louder :P
“You guys keep mentioning IRL FRS.1 kicked F-5E’s ass, then it must be your skill issue if you can’t beat F-5C/E while flying your Harrier shit.” :/
Yeah… Probably would.
Maybe because we used it as a CAS plane in Bosnia back in 1994 :P
… probably Gaijin thought
:/
Except the FA2 gets it’s correct designation.
nah
do you like being wrong on purpose?
It did?
Sort it out Gajin!!!
7:1 win rate in 1v1 combat
Slapped!
Gajin, realism plz…
If i was them id buff the shit out of it , if nothing more it would deffinitly boost premium sales.
We are working on it. Loads of reports are in
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