F-5C Flares need to be removed. It is FICTIONAL

Its not an F-15C because the Electronics are different, and later they have further differences in configuration and stores availability and that they are assembled from parts kits in Japan under license.

The F-5C also has additional ceramic armor plates added and other minor wiring differences from the F-5A.

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Which means nothing in Warthunder, same goes for F-15J’s electronics as well.

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The exclusive notable difference between F-15C and F-15J is the flare controls.
Flares are the same, flare buckets are the same… it’s the module in the cockpit that’s different.

At this point maybe, but in future the J/APQ-1 and asorted other actual differences (Like access to the MJU-47 / -50 / -51 for example) may be modeled.

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F-4E (68-0507) and (68-0532) TAM, June 1978 at RAF Wildenrath.

The ALE-40 countermeasure dispenser is visible via red circle near the back pylon of the right F-4E.

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Yes it was a Mod done in 1977

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All this b… Gaijin makes the chance now F-5C is the same BR as F-5E at BR 11

No speed

No radar

RWR working only back

No CCIP for Cannon, Bomb,Rockets

With the price of 64.99EUR only 10 EUR less than F-20A Tigershark no wonder ppl wake up and don’t spend money in the game. Buy a premium Vehicle so you can play it 2 years and then Nerfhammer makes it just ops elite

And for ppl crying here for F-5C not having Flars I said it before you will be happy if they changed the name for so many other upgraded F-5 with flares F-5s had extension use in the entire globe with many of them being upgraded to the extreme.

Tbh, i dont mind it having flares even tho what it the vehicle tries to represent did not in fact use the flare dispensers.

I think it would be cool from a vehicle uniqueness perspective that it is accurate to the 12 aircraft it tries to represent.

If a vehicle tries to be a specific version of a vehicle i think it ideally should be akkurate to that vehicle. Same way the Swedish Tiger is accurate to how that vehicle was and is not some generic Tiger 2 p like the one in the germab tech tree.

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I mean, T-2 is 9.7 with Aim-9J. Given the performance similarities and differences between it and the F-5C (without flares), that would seem like a reasonable assumption.

The F-1 goes to 10.3 just because it got more Aim-9J and CCIP.

Tbh the T-2 is probably more favorable at 9.7 than a flareless F-5C just because of the missiles together with nose authority.

Ur delusional. Its obviously a cracked and OP flight model, and it has been for years

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He mentions that both plane sits at same br while one of them is objectively worse in almost every way.

He’s right about that.

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I personally don’t mind the flares assuming they’re there for balance reasons. Its a sort of “semi-historical” upgrade that they’ve done before, so I think it’s okay. The game has long since gone away from 100% historical accuracy, such as the T-54 (1949) getting 3BM8 (in service ~1967), or the whole debate on implementing AIM-9E/J when the German Phantoms were introduced. I don’t mind it, the problem with the F-5C is that the flares are way too good because the engine(s) are absurdly cold. They don’t measure temperature by afterburner they measure it by the middle of the engine or something so the flares are almost always a guaranteed failsafe.

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The flight model is the worst at 11.0. Literally zero aircraft is worse than the F-5A/C at 11.0 in airframe performance.

At 10.3 there were at least 5 aircraft equivalent to it before Hungary was added and Mig-21s corrected.
Most aircraft as good as the F-5A/C is at 10.3 [with flares] and 9.3/9.7 without flares.

Yeah, but then it’d probably be forced down in BR. Isn’t that a worse thing to do?

I think the flares on F-5A/C wouldn’t be an issue if afterburner heat plume was taken into consideration because right now they can avoid missiles easier than Harriers due to somehow colder running engine…

I’ve had few F-5Cs flare a Magic 2 fired below 1.5km in rear aspect. Magic 2 at that range AND in rear aspect shouldn’t be able to be flared

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No, F-1 is more favourable, because 10.3 is king BR now, always fighting 9.3

F-5C FM is miles better than T-2/F-1 flight model. T-2/F-1 is basically a god damn jaguar

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Well cool story but these BRs aren’t gonna stay for very long.

F-5C and T-2 have effectively dogfight performance.
Both pulling similar sustained degree per second, and max turns.