I personally don’t mind the flares assuming they’re there for balance reasons. Its a sort of “semi-historical” upgrade that they’ve done before, so I think it’s okay. The game has long since gone away from 100% historical accuracy, such as the T-54 (1949) getting 3BM8 (in service ~1967), or the whole debate on implementing AIM-9E/J when the German Phantoms were introduced. I don’t mind it, the problem with the F-5C is that the flares are way too good because the engine(s) are absurdly cold. They don’t measure temperature by afterburner they measure it by the middle of the engine or something so the flares are almost always a guaranteed failsafe.
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The flight model is the worst at 11.0. Literally zero aircraft is worse than the F-5A/C at 11.0 in airframe performance.
At 10.3 there were at least 5 aircraft equivalent to it before Hungary was added and Mig-21s corrected.
Most aircraft as good as the F-5A/C is at 10.3 [with flares] and 9.3/9.7 without flares.
Yeah, but then it’d probably be forced down in BR. Isn’t that a worse thing to do?
I think the flares on F-5A/C wouldn’t be an issue if afterburner heat plume was taken into consideration because right now they can avoid missiles easier than Harriers due to somehow colder running engine…
I’ve had few F-5Cs flare a Magic 2 fired below 1.5km in rear aspect. Magic 2 at that range AND in rear aspect shouldn’t be able to be flared
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No, F-1 is more favourable, because 10.3 is king BR now, always fighting 9.3
F-5C FM is miles better than T-2/F-1 flight model. T-2/F-1 is basically a god damn jaguar
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Well cool story but these BRs aren’t gonna stay for very long.
F-5C and T-2 have effectively dogfight performance.
Both pulling similar sustained degree per second, and max turns.
T-2 loses all speed immediately
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Complete fabrication. Fully and actually at this point deliberate misinformation.
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If you pull too hard. If you pull identically to an F-5C it loses no speed.
@Italy_Suffers Is claiming all facts in the world are fabrications and misinformation.
Bet they’ve called teachers fabricators.
Brother, people aren’t arguing about it in simulator, you don’t use precision hotas in RB which allows you to very finely control elevator.
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You finely control the mouse…
At this point you have No clue what you are talking about
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He never had a clue
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In some respects yes, but you also dont have an Aim-9J.
Which means a flareless F-5C would have to allways avoid a launch angle against a fighter with a lot of nose authority should it decide to use it.
So what, F-1 itself doesn’t have flares either
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Im talking about the T-2 here at 9.7
its the exact same as F-1, just 2 less missiles
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F-5C’s over-BR’d currently and people are arguing about its flares.
Its FM could get fully fixed to where it dogfights worse than a Mig-21SMT.
Its engines could get fixed [G91Y shares the same engines].
Then it’d be a worse T-2 with flares.