F-4S is overpowered

Have you wonder why half of the 11.0s in the lobby is base bombing all the times?

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It’s because of the F-4S, which can carry up to 6x Aim-7F missiles and Doppler radar. Multipathing becomes a constant trope that one will have to rely on for a sizable amount of the time being in the game.

Planes with delta wings (or those that are heavy) are really bad at energy retention, and thus, alttitude becomes important, you can see where I am going with this. If they can’t dogfight…they just blow the bases up.

Only a few planes like the F-5 series have good enough airframe that can brawl in the low alttitude, ready to hop into the 60m zone at any moment.

Then there is also the fact that some planes in the 11.0-12.0 BR range just have really bad RWR. These guys.

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Finally, it is considerably tougher for 11.0s to deal with the F-4S, than is it for F-4S to deal with the 13.0s (as long it doesn’t stupidly get into a dogfight)

The same can also be said for the MiG-23ML that causes so many people to base bomb. But that is an topic for another day.

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They should ban you from the forums

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A plane one whole BR higher.

Also 21bis claps it if merges

so please tell me how the F-4S has a better RWR than that?

it is a PDV radar
you dont need to multipath you just need to notch it and it will instatnly lose lock

So? a 12.0 is a lot stronger than a load of 11.0s?

Whats the issue?

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half of those destroy an F-4S in a fight.

easiest CW SARH to defeat if you have your speed up

barely

roll the sparrow and continue pushing

Don’t need a good RWR when the sparrow burns for half an hour and the F-4S can only reliably shot it at you if you are going towards it.

lol

Just admit that you are playing something in the same bracket and the F-4S is faster and taking “your” bases

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newsflash.
89% of shots, that 7F goes somewhere else, what you are locking.
It uses HeadOnPD.
Want to get rid of that 7f? Turn 180, drop couple chaffs and turn back and drop altitude on same time

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Issue is, OP is a base bombing bot, as you can see from the poorly cropped screenshots.
He’ll lose the race to the base if he does that ( boo hoo lmfao)

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And yes, it is truly “easy” to fight against F16’s, mig 29’s, Su33’s, mirages, etc etc… on F4S, while having 2 rear aspect IR missiles and 5 randomroll 7F’s

I could claim that 11 vs 12 is easyer compared to 12 vs 13br

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Yeah it is old, sad and kinda hilarious story about player who uses every top fighter jet only to bomb bases… Like IRIAF.

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F4s is a strong 12.0 but not op

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f-4s gets a digital rwr spo 15 is not. you get all the angles you want plus launch warning on non pd radars.

no IFF
no IDing
cant class PD radars

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Where?

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thats still better than the spo 15/10, id rather get all the angles + range (altho spo 15 provides that) than launch warning. plus it ids via radar band so you know if a mig w/j band is locking you or any other plane

he dosent know that the F-4S dosent have a proper PD radar

Just gunna say this. If the F-104ASA can be 12.0. Then the Mig-23MLD with SPO-15 100% can be 12.0

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yeah ik, 23 mld should be 12.0 arb and 11.7 minimum sim. mig 23 ml/mla can definitely also go up in sim, arb not really

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like i would take the SPO-15 any day over whatever the F-14A and F-4S have

Every time I wanna lock somebody I use ACM, HMD is just unreliable on this thing