F-4s/F-20/F/A-18c Early need some new weapons added

Thing called… chaff his radar, stay in the notch for a bit then rapidly climb out of his radar window:

Again, skill issue.

Yes the chaff…

Exactly my issue

Yes, your skill issue, as we established, seeing I managed this with the netz but you can’t. It doesn’t take all 30-45 pops of chaff to notch a radar then climb out of its view.

man I can fly at top tier with the MiG-35’s 64 Cms
F-16A ADF is not that bad

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Only plane worth chastising over lack of cms is the J-15T tbh

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Sry but stats are worthless

For eg you could be a try hard that goes edge of map, waits for AI to spawn and gets 6 AI kills every game, not saying you do but cant confirm

I dont even get what you are saying. If i know where you are chaff isnt going to make me lose you?

So there will be another 5 fox 3 and then fox 2 spam coming your way.

Do people always go for the “muh statpadder” argument?

You literally have a brief window to rapidly climb or descend out of radar view in the notch. It’s not my problem you can’t understand something this basic.

Horrific skill issue if we’re getting fox 2s fired on.

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if the whole enemy team fires missiles at me? jesus men , people on this forum need to learn to read, think and reflect. Three people have already said that 45 countermeasures are enough, yet you keep saying you need 600 to play ,doesn’t that make you think at all?

But i still kmow roughly where you are.
Lose radar ok but what differnece is it going to make when HMD is spammed?

When the fox 2 start is actually where i win. It’s getting there…

Im also annoyed with this talking point of his. “What if im in [horrifically bad positioning]” like buddy that’s a you issue

HMD spam doesn’t work in a notch, genius.

If you have to wait for a flanker to close in instead of just ratting around for easy kills, that’s skill issue.

They could swap the AIM-9Ls on the F-20 for AIM-9P-4s and move it down to 12.0, out of range of the premium Su-30s.

You seem to be one of those people who can’t manage a proper notch and needs 30 countermeasures to get past the first wave of missiles

Yes f-20 FM versus 11.0 lol

It works well enough. It trys to relock- giving your postion up.

Even without this you are claiming you can just do a hoodini?

Hoodini when i explained in detail how the mechanic works…

Are you illiterate? This increasingly looks like a personal skill issue.

BTW this is easly countered by simply looking at average score and team positioning stats. AI kills make way less score than player kills. One can easily tell an AI farmer from their lower average score and team position compared to their kill count.

Unless you’re then suggesting I now pound ground ai and base bomb for score, which would be even more ridiculous as both are moronic and get you killed unless you do it at the very end of a game.

Sound more like skill issue of enemies somehow losing a jet that its had locked

Never happening- unless they go low through terrain. Hoddini with notch- actually funny

So… we can’t shake off a flanker with bad radar then blame the countermeasures for it.

Because bombs are deadweight and get you killed? Are you stupid?

Makes sense to take bombs if ypu play like this why not?

No if they are not braindead

You should do a guide as iv never witnessed this