F-4F Phantom Family Too Heavy

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Currently the F4F Family (including F-4F Early, F-4F, and F-4F KWS LV) all have an empty weight of 14,375kg. The F-4E in game currently have an empty weight of 14,205kg, 170kg lighter than the F variant. In theory the F variant should have a lighter body than the E variant since multiple systems including a fuel tank got removed. (As shown and modeled in game)
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F-4E
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F-4F (Rear most fuel tank removed)

But in game the F-4F family is 170kg heavier than the E variant.
Online sources listed the empty mass for Luftwaffe F-4F is around 13,800kg, which is about half a ton lighter than what we have in game.
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If anyone have any unclassified information about the empty mass please help.

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F-4F has an empty mass of 14,160kg.
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Not 14375.
F-4E has 13990kg.
F-4EJ and EJ Kai have 13750kg.
F-4C has 13190kg.
F-4K has 13540kg.

None of them are 14,375kg empty.

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He probably checked from the wiki (my guess)

Could you also tell me the empty masses of Su-27 and Su-27SM, I don’t know where and how to properly check

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Su-27 16300kg, 27SM 16700kg.

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Yeah the number is from wiki. I used to be part of the program and we were told those numbers on the table are linked to the numbers used in game. Will be careful next time.

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