F-4F ICE Battle Rating Change, what about everyone else?

Dropping the BR of any 13.0 is a terrible idea, lets just go take a look at what as 12.7 can fight.

mig 23, A-10 and f-111, Tornado IDS (which gets 56 flares), and an ungodly amount of 12.0s that already have to deal with 1.0 up BR which btw a lot don’t have any if not very little flares such as the JA37D and Kfir.

the Tornado F3 Late has the same 120s on an arguably better radar platform, and the same IR missile but with a smokeless motor which makes it hard to find (I checked the file that’s literally the only difference between the 9M and 9L/I)

In reality It would be best to raise the max BR but gaijin doesn’t like reality, so we just gotta suffer with the evil of a plane that shouldn’t have been down BRed

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its the F104 situation again. cant compete at its BR so it gets to go down and ruin an entire bracket, which then in turn pushes more incapable jets down. etc etc

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I won’t blame german mains for wanting a better fighter than the ICE.

However if someone starts acting like they have already won before any official announcement and starts taunting the other side? I’ll gladly take all the pleasure from seeing karma hitting them back in the face, as was the case with the 18C situation.

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ICE is just helpless victim of time it’s done . It’s too op for 12.0-12.3 brackets because of amraams and radar alone, but it’s gonna be same crap EVEN with decompression because it’s gonna meet actual top jets most of the time.

precisely

India is a sub tree for the UK.

“Much like South African vehicles, Indian vehicles will be introduced into the British tree.”

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yes that was discussed and resolved promptly after. I did state that id missed that due to a break from the game :=) thank you for linking it again,

but again, why not canada or australia? canada we are closer linked with militarily than Inida, or south africa.

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Another one I can add to my “Smin confirming that India is indeed a UK subtree” collection.

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Just the hope is that it stays Premiums, SQVs and events beyond rare exceptions like the OSA which was an unplanned C&P .

Would be frustating to see aircraft like the Mig-29K added instead of the Harrier Gr9A or Typhoon

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yeah its gonna happen isnt it. britain wont get any british air craft or tanks xD

but why india, it really should go to russia if anything.

Can’t wait to not play a single British plane and grind the whole TT with a MiG-21 so I can play the SU-30MKI

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you jest but itll endup happening man

snd it will be stupid, might as well just remove nations at that point.

If you want that, Buy a premium mig-21 in the soviet TT and grind out the soviet TT for the Su-30

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I already have the soviet tech tree, but I want all the flankers

i think hes making a joke out of it,

but look at it, its already happening,
Best tank for france? leopard 2a6, best jet,? arguably an F16.
Italy ? best top tier tank? leopard 2a7, bests jet, gripen followed by mig29
britain? best tank? a challanger 3 TD which is using a leopard ammo and ammo layout but is garbage regardless, best jet? swedish gripen.

see where im going

Just ignore what i’ve said previously in this thread 🙄

No one is saying that the other nations SHOULDN’T get it, just that Germany should be the first since the others have a competent platform currently. I’m surprised you don’t understand this.

2 premiums that no one really asked for (Tornado and SU22)…

Smin literally announced it???

But they still came and most nations are likely envious.

I know as Brit, I’d love something like the Torando WTD61 for our tree (in fact there are options for a premium tornado). All we’ve gotten is strictly speaking recently are fighters, (Sea Vixen, Lightning, F4, Mig-21)

  • Japan only has the F4EJ ADTW which I think is showing its age pretty hard (AV-8S will be nice, but only 9.7 and the harriers have issues)
  • Italy only has the AMX A-1A which is rather over BRed in air modes (F-104 is no on sale)
  • Sweden is just getting the JA37DI (which might be very weak)
  • Israel only has the Kfir Canard which I think has some major issues

So 3 pretty decent premiums vs a fair few with none is not half bad going. Su-22 looks like the perfect aircraft to add for the role which is CAS for GRB.