F-4EJ Kai Phantom II

Why does F-4EJ Kai Go against F18’s?

The plane Is slower, can’t maneuver enough to compete with, F-16’s and F-18’s , doesn’t have good missiles it’s stuck with AIM-7F and Aim-9L is mid at best, the radar is good.

It gets up-tiered to 13.0 where some planes like: F-4F ICE, AV-8B Plus [GER/IT], Sea Harrier FA2, J-8F, JA37DI, all with FOX 3 missiles, that isn’t counting the fact that i can go up to 13.3 where even more Planes have FOX 3’s.

I’m sure there are few other planes that suffer the same but my main point if F-4EJ Kai, it can get good weapons like AAM-3’s so it’s at least somewhat better for fighting jets that out perform it by a mile

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Calling the F-18’s missiles “mid” is a take…

13.0 is compressed, and F-18A should be 13.0.
Of course EJ Kai is also probably too hot for 12.3, but without 13.0’s decompression I can see why it staying at 12.3 at this time is valid.

@AlvisWisla missread,…

he’s talking of F-4EJ Kai having mid missile in comparison to F/A-18/F-16’s (which is not entirely true, they both have AIM-9L’s, only F/A-18 have AIM-7M at a BR no one have anything close to it)

at least bare minimum : F/A-18A should be 12.7 as the F-16A ADF was before / F-16AJ is today (because of AIM-7M)
and F/A-18C early should be 13.0 (as it’s currently having AIM-7P which are better than AIM-7M, on-board F-15A)

AIM-7F/M are effectively identical missiles.

And yeah, as long as F-14B is 13.0, the F-18A should join it [at least with the current level of 12.7 air].

at 5° gimbal differences,… but yeah other than that, they’re pretty similar.

i believe that having F/A-18A [Current TT one at 12.3] to 12.7, would be enough
but the F/A-18C early [current Premium at 12.7] to 13.0 is necessary.

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Is not your fault, because Gaijin want it money.

calm down g f18a with 4 aim7f is nowhere near 13.0 leave you saying plane like su33 with 8 r27er is equivalent to to f18a never mind the f18c with 6 aim7p you are either oblivious to this br range and below or above to speak to speak on this matter Or it’s just your opinion which you are entitled to but it’s not a fact

@Renamed4923
Wow… if only I said the Su-27 and F-15A should be moved up… I did.
Decompression is the answer to everyone that plays the BR range.

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hey i think we both can agree that we need a br decompression for sure but we can know this can’t happen in near future because bvvd respond to this question and the reason was because of matchmaking time would be longer which i can respect but its truly sad answer because some planes can be broken in just .3 or .7 difference but so the plane that above it and the cycle continue and other plans are weak But not weak enough to justify being in lower in br so they stay in this awkward situation