Alr i did more research the image for sure shows that these are aim 9 JULIS instead of aim 9P-4/5 and thats bc the black part of the seeker area ends before the canards on the julis while p4/5 goes further behond the front canards also the juli has those blue rings the p4/5 uses yellow rings instead so yea greece def got a few julis from germany when they did the whole aup modernization there bc juli is a german modified misisle after all.
Top image is aim 9 JULI
Bottom image is aim 9P-4/5
Yea love them but I didn’t include the photos because I think they are older variants and the RF-4
yea they are for sure pre aup f4e and rf4es from the looks of it
Swiss AIM-9P-5 to be precise, not really noteworthy but it could be worth mentioning for future reference.
The Aim-9P-4/5 varies in appearance. The greyish-green front shell can vary, from it being simply the seeker, to one panel behind that, to two panels behind that. Not much of an indicator of the variant.
I seemed to have confused you by not explaining what that means, apologies. Yellow or redish-brown rings means a live missile, and blue rings means an inert missile (there are inert versions of practically every missile, so have a fully colored body, others have bands). Blue rings means there’s no warhead and is commonly used for practice and training. Yellow/Brown rings are the real deal and live missiles.
Really just Ignore the rings, I mentioned them earlier as they are a good indicator of the HAF was using inert versions for practice.
oyea i kinda forgot that blue rings were just training missiles and not the actual real deal lol
Great suggestion! However, it does make me wonder, how do the MFD pages of this F-4 variant look like?
I have possibly two assumptions on how it may look like based on two hypothesis:
Note: Extensive image gallery up ahead for both drop-drown options
Possible layout considering the MFD’s match with the same model used for the F-4AUP as well as similar dates where the contracts and modernizations were held.
Possible layout considering the Kfir CE borrowed a lot of tech from the Lavi; considering as well that the Ecuadorian Air Force started their modernization program in 1998
Though to be fair, considering the similarities in display components between the MiG-21LanceR and F-4 AUP, I wouldn’t be surprised if we got the first layout.
I hope it gets its own unique cockpit that it has (I think it’s the same with the ICE we have in game)
another image of the f4e aup carrying gbu paveways and AGM 65F mavericks and ofc its targeting pod (side note: 1 of the very few images out there of the front view of the aup 2000)
How confident are you this is a Greek F-4? I was previously unaware of the HAF operating AGM-65 variant beyond the 65B model.
What? They’re no way they only would’ve bought 65Bs
i think those would be Gs, as Fs are the navy’s version, either way, they seem to be training missiles, can’t say the same about the bombs though
heres 2 more images of the same aircraft
I just know they used 65Bs way back when and still technically have them listed on their official page as apart of their inventory, I didn’t think they acquired any other later on or anything. What’s not listed on their page is any other maverick variant, but the image below your comment I’m replying to shows it is indeed a HAF phantom, so I guess they must have gotten them at some point
It’s a long time since they have -G,
(Yes it’s a Greek missile don’t mind what it is saying, in the -B too they also haven’t remove the insignia of USAF)
Also it does list it in the equipment list
the nose cone color and bird shreader above the nose gives it away very easely since only greece ever modified there phantoms that way and the color of the nose is done on purpose so it can carry the new radar to guide the aim 120s. germany has a slight diff tone of color of the nose but that is also acceptable for guiding aim 120s
another rare image i found of the f4e aup 2000 visiting the netherlands in the 2000s somewhere with it standing inside a large hangar with infront of it a royal netherlands airforce f16AM
What br is it gonna be?
+1
All depends on what missile they will give it, if it’s the 4 AIM-120B and and 4 AIM-9M it will be the same br with the ICE (13.0) if they give it AIM-120C-5/7 for a Loadout of 4 AMRAAM and 4 AIM-9M I guess 13.3
English site didn’t have a dedicated link for it like that, just 65B, but I seemed to have missed that it was listed under equipment unless it was added since I last checked (or I just outright forgot for some reason, I do that sometimes lmao).
It should stay 13.0 then, unless they buff those missiles. Aim-120Cs preform so poorly in the Air RB meta compared to Aim-120Bs.
Yea in Greek it has for all the munitions
Greece had/has 9JULI ,9P-4/5 , 9L/LI and 9M all of them can be used from AUP.
F-4E AUP can carry only 120B. The radar is capable of 120Cs but they were never integrated. Also, to fire 120Cs it will need modifications to the fuselage missile recesses because they are modded for 120Bs.
The thing is some sources say it can use IRIS-T (technically it can 100%, just without the HMDS) , some other say it was planned but not integrated. And ofc you’ll never see it carry one because there is no practical reason…
Also, i wouldn’t want them on the plane in game because with GJs balancing and BRs BS they’ll make it unplayable.
