F-2A ADTW should be 12.7

Hello, everyone!

This thread will only focus on Air RB, so we will ignore factors like guided bombs for CAS.

With the warmly received BR change to the F-15A/F-15J, which had been 13.0 (like F-2A right now) but were reduced to 12.7.

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I think it is time that we review the F-2A ADTW as well, in gameplay terms, it stands as a side grade to F-15J, sacrificing many benefits of the F-15J for a better airframe that will help in 1v1 duels.

There are many areas that the F-2A ADTW is worse in performance, with some nuances.

Better:

Airframe for 1v1 duels

Worse:

Radar (NCTR and quicker scanning, but the lack of SRC mode means you can’t reliably use AAM-3 with radar on when dealing with multipathing targets, and TWS+ locks the radar in place; the radar would be better than F-15 radar if we’re comparing ARH slingers)
Acceleration to speed/climbing
Slower overall speed
Less minigun bullets (512 vs 940)
Half CMs (120 vs 240)

Some graphs showing the advantages of the F-15J in non-dogfighting

People’s ratings on the F-2A ADTW on the Wiki:

Other than flight performance, none of the metrics are viewed as good, only being rated 50-60% with yellow (mediocre) color, though I don’t care about ground attack due to this being an ARB post.

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0a4

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Here before the haters
su-34

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Tiger Tank with another banger.
Love these well written and reasoned horrific ideas.

The answer is still no. :)

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no the f15a should just go back to 13.0

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AESA is probably the only reason its 13.0
But lack of standard PD search modes grinds my gears…

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especially because you can’t turn off IR missile slaving

I rarely use TWS outside of top tier early match BVR, all normal search after that

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True but it doesn’t get HMS and it still using fox1

naww even alvis roasts this kid now

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Neither should be 12.7 Both should be 13.0 with more br decompression overall.

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aesa with the second best fm in the game and aam3s at 12.7?

As a japanese main i see this as an absolute win! please cook my mig-29 even more than it already is!

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Its also one of, if not maybe the strongest dogfighter at that BR.

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said nobody ever

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by “warmly received” you mean everyone is going “why was it moved down this is a terrible idea who even asked for this”

“yes lets make the BEST one circle planes in a dogfight a 12.7 great idea”

quite literally rage bait gaijin ignore this guy

F-2A ADTW shouldnt go lower, what should happen is all these 13.3 premium Su-30s to go to 13.7 (I dont even know why chinese Su-30MKK with 6 PL-12s sits at 13.3 while J-11B is 13.7) and the other ARH carrier planes such as J37DI. F-16A, AV-8 to go to 13.3, and more decompression overall

F-2A ADTW except good radar and airframe and “best” (im saying “best” since I had them go for a flare or missile rear aspect with enemy afterburner on) its literaly outshined by every Su-27/30 series (ADTW should be facing Su-27/33), would be fair to face mostly 13.0-12.7 planes rather than what I have experienced (in 300 matches got only 5 downtiers, YES I COUNTED THEM)

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