The F-2A ADTW is a good premium, but the lack of FOX 3s and the constant uptiers make it very hard to grind consistently. Yes, the AAM-4s are very good IR missiles, but in order to use them effectively, you must get close to the enemy first, but that almost never happens, especially in uptiers, as the enemy is constantly shooting FOX-3s at you, which forces you to play defensively, and with a lack of your own FOX-3s, it’s impossible to counterattack. I would like to see the F-2A ADTW moved to 12.7 or be given access to something like the PL-12
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It is a top 5 13.0, and if it moves down, every single 12.7 and almost every 13.0 needs to go down in order to not make it an extremely OP premium.
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Yes, I get that, but vs a BR that almost every other plane has, FOX 3 makes it a little difficult to perform well consistently. a better idea could be to move planes like the su-30 to 13.7 and since the F2A is at 13.0 im getting upteired to 13.3 almost every game and i have to play defensively pretty much the whole game from the FOX 3 spam
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No because worse aircraft sit there.
F-15A shouldnt be 12.7 in the first place
Its japanese aircraft, it wont get access to PL-12.
Besides, any ARH would just push it to 13.7 where TT F-2A sits where it would be less special.
Also
I absolutely disagree.
(This was ARB)
Got it yesterday, im still stock crew and im aitting at 3.5 KD and 70% winrate. It absolutely is capable of grinding consistently, its just not braindead aircraft to play
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okay yeah it might just be a skill issue but ive tried so many different ways to play it can you give any tips on how you play it i just find it hard to counter attack with no fox 3s since im always trying to defend against fox 3s
I personally play it as follows: I take 1:2 flares to chaff ratio, sideclimb behind my team to 8k at start of the game, then i turn in and gain as much speed as possible.
Radar gives you unprecedented situational awarness, use it to avoid furballs and getting jumped by more enemies. You wont be able to do it everytime, obviously, but more you do longer you stay alive = you get more kills.
You want to be as fast as possible to give your sparrows initial speed boost. More speed = less time to target = larger chance of hitting the enemy.
Focus enemies at your own alt, if there arent any, dive down and deliver pain.
Do not contest ARHs, its not a fight you can win. However you can just stay in notch till missile is defeated.
Most enemies just send single ARH your way and dont bother to secure the kill, once you notch it you jump them.
If someone focuses just sit in notch till merge, F-2 has insane FM so if they merge they usually die.
If enemy is closing in, im talking like 4-5km, start preflaring in case they fire IR towards you.
Learn to differentiate between radar supported ARH launch and R-27ER launch, it will save your life.
Do not underestimate straight up anime bullshit R-77 can pull at close range, flat spinning enemy can still hit 180° launch under some conditions.
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PL-12 sucks, giving the F-2 Fox-3s would mean increase in br, which is bad.
- It won’t be “unique” anymore
- it would go from one of the best at its br to mid. The F-2A at 13.7 is quite mid and the lack of HMD is a big hassle to work around there while at 13.0 it’s much easier
it is one of the best 13.0 aircraft in the game
moving it down to 12.7 would mean it gets to be an absolute bully just like the Su-30s are
AAM-3s have absurd range, abuse that in top-down shots and at alt.
side aspect/top-down is where they do best.
low countermeasure count enemies also are good victims (Su-33 for example)
Another useful trick is TRK MEM + sidelobing.
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Consider this.
F2A already get to fight things like the Phantom FG1.
It does not need to get to fight things like the Mig23.
Everything else needs to go up if the F2A is really that lackluster (it isn’t)
Obvious bait.
im getting uptiered 100% of the games i play im pretty much always playing in 13.3 or above
I’m pretty much facing su-30s every game. I’m constantly uptiered, as soon as an Su-30 spots me they wont stop slinging fox-3s until I’m dead. I notch one and they just send another my way until im dead sometimes they shoot more than 3 missles just to try and kill me
i kinda feel like its not so much a skill issue anymore but rather its being uptiered pretty much 100% of the time
I hate reading BS like this so much…seriously wth kind of request is this!!!
exactly what is bs
Trying to get one of the best non arh 13.0 to be moved down? F-15s bad enough and this is better than said f15.
okay dont move it down but gajin could at least fix the problem of being uptiered to 13.3 or above every single game
i get spammed by fox 3s literally every game makes it very hard to get more than one kill consistently.
Yes, because they’re on sale, ofc they’re getting spammed and you’re getting uptiered as a result
Moving it down to 12.7 is definitely not the right move, it should remain where it is.
However, arguing about it being one of the best planes at it’s br is also kinda wrong when the SU-30MKK sits at only 13.3 and will accompany you into almost every match and brutally mog you in literally every way. It’s faster, has a better radar (specially since the radar still doesn’t work properly on the f2), and better missiles by a long shot.
But the F-2A ADTW is an incredibly strong plane, and the AAM-3s are busted once you get into a good position. And it’s also a pretty enjoyable plane to fly and grind with (if you can even call grinding fun).
Although, recently I have noticed theres there’s less and less people flying low anymore which could make it harder to get above people since thats where the AAM-3a shine.
It is one of the best planes at its br.
Why are you comparing it to an undertiered 13.3 plane.
F-2 and Su-30MK2 are at two different brs.
When I say “at its br”, I literally mean at its br.
That means only 13.0 aircraft.
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