doubt this just because they have never added a major vehicle with its prototype first
Don’t know if this has been posted before, I imagine it has, but I found this looking around about aim120.
https://www.jble.af.mil/Portals/46/F-22%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf
It’s a primary source that states the f22 can hit mach 1.5 without afterburner.
“The F-22 engines produce more thrust than any current fighter engine. The combination of sleek
aerodynamic design and increased thrust allows the F-22 to cruise at supersonic airspeeds
(greater than 1.5 Mach) without using afterburner – a characteristic known as supercruise”
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very appreciated, I think we have all known it was fast like 1.7 super cruise fast but even if this source is the lower end of the guess, it will help us get it properly implemented unlike the EFT on release lol.
That was the YF-22 with the GE YF-120 variable cycle engines. The service F-22 is slower, maximum supercruise is slightly less than the EF Typhoon’s, as it lacks intake ramps among other things.
you might be right but I believe the lowest guaranteed known super cruise for the regular f22 is 1.5, equal to that of the EFT clean if I recall though that could be wrong since I don’t know as much specific details about the EFT.
Max super cruise for f22 is not lower than typhoons, I can guarantee that lol
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Yeah, isn’t F-22 supposedly smth like Mach 1.8? EFT is at Mach 1.5 (unless your Gaijin, then it’s a marketing lie)
you have any sources for this?
because from a quick search YF22 is quoted with a lower supercruise speed than F22
EF with 6x missiles and 2x underwing tanks is 1.6M supercruise, from either Thai or Singaporean trials I forget. It’s guaranteed to be slower than the EF Typhoon as there’s no way to modulate incoming air except the bleed holes.
That’s incorrect.
Source?
https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/135233/general-jumper-qualifies-in-fa-22-raptor/
Primary source for speeds exceeding Mach 1.7
Yeah, max super cruise speed should be around Mach 1.78 which is ridiculous
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With 6+2 and at like 60,000ft right? Or was it 30/40 thousand
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This one states the EFTs Supercruise as Mach 1.5 (the site may be a bit fucked up, may just be me tho). Theres some sources that state that this number is achieved with missiles as well, idk how many it was tho and neither do I have those on hand. Idk where the other guy got Mach 1.6 from, but that numbers has never been stated as such. I think the swiss trails have some more detail as well, but those are classified, don’t post em here
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Yeah Mach 1.5 I’ve seen before, never Mach 1.6 which is why I was questioning it
I heard it was actually 1.4 when tested
the thing is, that 1.5 is for a clean aircraft too
with stuff its down to 1.2-1.3
Around 40-50 thousand feet and yeah 6+2
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