F-20 should be 11.7

Skills make a difference.

No, it doesn’t. The missile stats don’t change depending on skill. Stop making stuff up.

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Hahhahaha people Coping

R23Ts for you then. I’ll pay $35.50 for F-20 Tigershrek.

Has this dude even flown the mig-21bis at 11.0

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If it can take 2 sparrows along with 4 sidewinders, I would admit it 12.0. But it can only take 2 SARH with 2 IR missiles. So its battle efficiency is worse than F-16A ADF, 11.7 is better.

Lol completley wrong 6x AIM9L>6xR-60M R-60M has garbage tier range flare resistance compared to 9l

They cannot change its BR…they could not charge $75 for it if they did. Sucker buy.

not until mig23ml gets moved to 12.0/11.7

This is a ridiculous abuse of power… I provided everything I said earlier.

That’s the biggest limiter of it - A2A loadout limitations by the numbers.

Nearly everything at the same BR can carry 2x the amount of SARH and IR.

However identifying the correct conditions for an R60M to hit does require some skill. If launched right, an R60M is unavoidable

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Did you post any actual info they can use, or did you just blabber on about “Logic” and “Reason” for a few paragraphs ?

I don’t think you noticed that the M ~2 limit is literally stated on the WAR THUNDER STORE PAGE APPROVED BY NONE OTHER THAN GAIJIN ENTERTAINMENT THEMSELVES. At altitude, 2,200 km/h corresponds with roughly M ~2.05-2.10 under ISA conditions. I ripped at ~1870 km/h as shown in my original post which is about M 1.76-1.77 at the same altitude under an entirely clean configuration. The F-5E rips at the EXACT SAME SPEED. Need I say more…?


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Cool site and all, but unless you have some documents / flight manuals highlighting your issue, Gaijin wont look at it

Even though Gaijin essentially lied on the store page to get people to fork over $75?

Yell at some moderator, not me

Not yelling at you lol.

Theres 1 guy (who is an absolute idiot mind you ) calling for 10.7

But i’d say 11.7 is reasonable, it def isnt like the airframes of 12.0

I refuse to believe anyone is this stupid… surely…

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