F-20 should be 11.7

Can’t compare different players.
2.4 without being spaded is ridiculously good, especially for me where my average in fighters hovers around 2.

Brother, just because you performed slightly better then your average results doesnt mean Kurnass 2000 is op, play it more,spade it, increase your kd values then we can talk about it again.

But i still dont think its an op plane, might be very strong because of extra countermeasures and Python-3’s tho.

EJ Kai’s Sparrows becomes useless as soon as you get into low alt which practically means F-20 has more armament.

İt has terrible flight performance compare to F-20 and it doesnt have Agile Eagle package.

Pops 2 countermeasure each time which means its basically has same pop Numbers F-20 has not to mention it has two afterburning engine which makes Phantom easier target for İr missiles.

Good luck with that mediocre acceleration, insane temprature on those engines and bein giant target.

İ suppose you never played with Tornados at that br bucket, those are real bricks.

Personal preferences can be different but that doesnt mean F-20 suffers.

As it should because of the reasons you explained.

No, just because we have better planes at same br doesnt mean F-20 should be lowered and club other planes.

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Somehow with my F-20A having a flap missing, fuselage damage and a yellow engine I was able to beat an undamaged F-16A block 10 in a dogfight…

I’m really surprised, either the matchmaker is feeding me paid actors or the F-20A has some very serious flight performance.

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How to hell…

Can you give me some of them paid actors for my Russian TT grind lmfao

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The F-20 is somehow a worse dogfighter than the F-5E lmao. (With regard to flight performance of course)

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It seems as though the curse of the nigh-impervious F-5 damage model has struck again

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Remember when the F-5 first came out? It was unkillable

Kfir is ruined due to a low countermeasure count as well as structural limitations making it unplayable.

Blud can’t throttle down lmao

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Well guys.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/eeBuF0R63vma
No more F-20A trolling.

the F5E (kinda the predessesor with worse engines and worse ammo (no all aspect munitions)) is already very strong (even if a bit slow) at 10.7, so with the F5E at 11.0 the F20 should be at least 11.7.
The issue again is the high br-compression, that directly at 12.0 you got the F16 ADF, which is in basically every way better than the F20.

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don’t forget that especially at high speeds the structural limit is often an issue, and that vanishes with the structural limit multiplier we have in game (unfortunately not 1, but 1.5)

AFAIK what is often said is that manufacturers will reduce their “structural limit” numbers by 1/3 in order to maximise the lifespan. Since War Thunder is all about factory new kit, we’re operating on hard limits with fresh airframes not the real-life degraded and decades old rustbuckets.

agreed. But at 11.7 it still exposed to the likes of MiG 29s and F16 ADF as you said.

yes, but through that you get the 9 G limiter, that Gaijin literally had to remove, on planes that you can’t deactivate it, becaust that gave an unfair advantage to others. Also don’t forget, that bending the airplane, literally makes it almost a dead frame, so you should get repaircost for over-G-ing, if you look at it in this way.

yes, this is the br-compression Gaijin is unwilling to fix, so deal with it or don’t play such vehicles.

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I don’t know how many times people need to explain that it’s an AOA limiter, not a literal G limiter.

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Remove bombs and rockets from it as well😁