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Good lord they must suck… Christ…
Every dogfight I ran against a F-20 using a F-15 I won with no problems at all, I have no earthly idea how they could possibly mess that up…
Then dont go around making such ridiculous claims? Simple innit?
Oh you wanna keep rambling about bunch of unrelated stuff, gotcha.
The milkshakes at Wendys are actually thick as opposed to the McDonald ones that they advertise them as.
Of course, then there are KFC milshakes, but they are usually in some unconventional flavor, as i believe you cant get pure vanilla milkshake there.
Like your poor comprehension of "enabling it to be launched farther from the target"
This one gives you away you had to dig K/D and relate it to this thread.
Also trying to look big with skulls.
I don’t even know what to say
Kfir C7 has great acceleration, but you forgot that its a delta wing aircraft meaning it will lose all it’s speed in one turn, worse guns, it has less countermeasures and can only carry up to 4 missiles. So no, it is not better.
Also Aim 7Fs are not inferior to Aim 9L, both are great missiles and both have advantages and disadvantages to each other. Cause let me tell you there are many times in the Ja37D, and Gripen where I wished I had Aim 7Fs or Aim 7Ms, instead of just pure IR missiles. Heck previously before python 3s were added, the Kurnass 2000 was considered the best phantom in game since it had both Aim 9Ls and Aim7Fs like the F4EJ Kai but it got the agile eagle upgrade unlike the EJ Kai. However, once pythons were added, it lost it’s Aim 7Fs and as a result it dropped in Br and lost the title of best phantom to the EJ Kai.
If we were to also compare the missiles, Aim 7Fs have much longer range compared to the Aim 9L and the majority of the time require notching and chaffing in order to evade the missile. Aim 9L is betetr at short range compared to the aim 7s and can pull 5g more, however they can easily be flared. As I said, both missiles have advantages and disadvantages to each other, but they require the knowledge to know when to use them.
The Kfir C7 loses speed in its turn cause it’s allowed to turn beyond 23 degrees per second.
F-20 only turns at 16 - 21 degrees per second sustained, with a peak turn rate of 25 degrees per second.
Yes, both F-20 and Kfir C7 carry less countermeasures than everyone else.
Kurnass 2000 is OP currently.
Bruh, calling Kurnass 2000 as an op is quite ridicilous.
I have a wicked KDR in it barely having modifications on it already.
It’ll only grow as I get more of its performance mods since I unlocked its meta loadout 2 matches in it ago.
2.4 K/D ratio its not equal to Op bro.
İ have 2.9 K/D ratio in my F4E but i still wouldnt call F4E as an op plane in any regard.
Not Complaining, just mentioning their existence. One of the main arguments i see Against the F-20 being an 11.7 is due to its missiles.
Yes, both of those are a br slot too low, but again thats not the point I was talking about.
Same point as above, merely mentioning the existence of strong planes with good missiles and flight performance Sitting at 11.7.
Yes its going to club downtiers, just like **Anything ** Sitting at the height or top of its Br, Hell it doesn’t even have to be the best to club downtier lobbies. Thats not an issue specific to the F-20. (I can list examples if you so need)
You also seemed to entirely gloss over this part
** just give it 6 P4’s and let it be 11.7. Because the F 20 is simply inferior to most jets at 12.0**
Which is probably the solution we should be giving. Worse missiles and have it placed at 11.7.
They Must Have had the monitors unlplugged LOL
But seriously in a 1 on 1 the only aircraft at 12.0 that the F-20 has a good chance against is the Mig-29,
Even then if you both get slow he’s gonna out rate you with better lift and acceleration, not to mention HMD.
Aim-9L’s arent the reason why F-20 should stay at 12.0, its the flight performance.
Main reason is the br comprassion.
Again issue arent the missiles its the flight performance itself, just because Mirage2000’s are undertiered(which both models will recieve 12.0 br soon according to some information) doesnt mean F-20 should also be 11.7.
Which is also subpar for a “12.0” airframe
it Can’t be. Because its subpar to every airframe at 12.0.
and speaking of 11.7 airframes, Its not that far ahead of them either.
Kifir C.7 (amazing flight performance)
M2K (great flight performance, Magic 2’s)
J8-F (good performance , but 6 python 3’s with a HMD)
Everything at 11.7 has great flight performance, and if it doesn’t it has something to make up for it.
(example is harrier’s flying like a garbage bag in the wind, but they have 9m’s )
F-18 engine on F-5 airframe is subpar? Not even close, we have F4 phantoms on 11.7.
-Has less countermeasures
-Less missiles
-Loses massive amount of speed in turn because of bein Delta wing
-Less awareness cause it lacks advanced RWR and Doppler radar
-Has Less missiles
-Worse sustained capabilities
-Burns insane amount of energy in single turn, because its a delta.
-Doesnt have sustained capabilities and acceleration that F-20 has
-Worse Airframe
-Worse acceleration
-Worse sustained turn
-Has Less top speed
Compare to them F-20 has actually quite nice advantages.
Obviously Mirage2k should be 12.0 because of Magic-2’s performance combining with overall airframe performance but still this doesnt justify that F-20 should be 11.7, let me remind you we have F4 Phantom at 11.7 and Harriers because of their armaments.
F-20 shouldnt be seal clubbing those 10.7-11.7’s 24/7.
F-4 that gets double the armament and moderate flight performance with the agile eagle package, along with more countermeasures and a better gun. Hell I’d take the F-14A over that speed bleeding brick of an F-20 any day, gladly take the mirage, harrier, or J-8F either.
Simple fact is that this is much worse than the F-16ADF (it was literally designed to be a budget F-16 option for export), and unless we get decompression that raises them up and keeps the F-20 here, the F-20 belongs below the F-16ADF and other F16s at BR 11.7.