ok, as i played MF.1 enough for the last month and i have F-20 which i haven’t touched yet , you are TOTALLY wrong.
MF.1 SARH… they are way too bad. Don’t even compare.
Also the Magic 2 IRCCM capability… is WAY too overrated. It has IRCCM, when you are directly behind around 1,8km and less and in a very certain aspect on the sides. Front aspect gets decoyed by a fly passing between you and the opponent .
And i’ve played with 9Ls and i’ll tell you they work in a very similar way and i can make Python 3 shots work like Magic 2 shots, just in less range.
So while, yes, F-20 is 12,3 material, MF.1 is not even 11.7. It’s more comparable with MLD than with any 12.0s. MLD has good SARH, MF.1 has good IR. But, yeah…
Should we we play MF.1 stop pulling good scores and cry more in the forums?
Same for F-20 players…
No, we just need logic in the MM and over 100iq people managing it… Here doesn’t happen.
nah the magic 2 irccm is not overrated. as a mirage player myself i can say it is great. almost always guaranteed kill from inside 1.5km which youll get into often thanks to speed. rather have magic 2 than aim9m.
python 3 dont have irccm and i feel like it gets flared often even sometimes from close. hate it.
Yeah, that would change the BR and rank of the F-20 to Rank 8, and they can’t do that because they already sold it as a rank 7. In an ideal world, they released the F-20 from the get-go with Aim-120s at rank 8 but here we are.
The missile accelerates super fast and gives no time to countermeasures. In a 2-km launch, the delay between you hitting the key and the flares popping out means the missile is already about 1km away. It’s insanely good and not “overrated”. Infact, I think it’s a bit unfair to deal with.
In regard to this, AIM7F is significantly better kinetically so not very comparable. Also manoeuvrability and radar goes in favour of F20, so over all it is significantly better, maybe not by 0.7, by compression is common place RN in this BR range.
You know what’s even more laughable F4s at the Same battle rating the last time an F4 Flew in the United States military was in Vietnam, but yet it goes against platforms that replaced it makes no sense 4 vs 14, F14 wins every time regardless of the pilot, this isn’t top gun Maverick
Yeah no, the production standard we have in-game wouldn’t have gotten AMRAAMs. That would’ve been the F-20 based on prototype 4 and beyond. Protos 2 and 3 were more or less limited to the weapons we see in-game, with the exception of the AIM-9L (which they never test-fired). AMRAAM wasn’t even around for integration during the program’s testing phase lol, as the US military were doing their own tests with it.
Prototype 4 and beyond were never produced/built, and are not in-game. The F-20 we have is outright proto 2/3, not exactly production standard (based on the fact it lacks an arrestor hook). Proto 2 only ever did captive flight testing/ground display with ANRAAM, and it wasn’t intended for integration (due to “production standard” shifting to the then in-progress proto 4).
And I just stated that the F-20 we have in-game is prototype 2/3, neither of which had AMRAAM integrated nor planned.
If you wanted an F-20 at its “full potential”, you’d be looking at basically a paper vehicle (prototype 4/third production standard). The one we currently have is the best it can be.
Do you realize that those missiles are as easy to counter as the 10.0 sarh missiles, a single chaff and they are done, most of the times they are just dead weight.