Alright, this is the last time I’m gonna say anything on this, because it’s you who’s not listening to what I’ve been implying/outright saying.
There is no precedent for prototype aircraft. If anything, the AJ and R2Y2s were all exceptions to the rule, hence the R2Y2s being replaced (and frankly the AJ should’ve been replaced by three different Thai F-16As + other SEA F-16Cs).
With Tigershark 4, the airframe was never finished, and hence never flown. There is no flight test data for it, let alone factual information on how the radar would’ve performed (as it never was test-flown). The uprated engine, to my knowledge, did not exist.
At least with the F-16AJ, IRL it would’ve been a slightly modified F-16A Block 1/5/10, so the flight data for that would’ve been the same. With the Yak-141, the airframe actually flew, and the systems actually existed.
There is quite literally no way to know how Tigershark 4 would’ve accurately performed, since the wing and LERX mods (combined with the uprated engine) changed its performance quite drastically. Simply put, there is genuinely no way to have the second production standard F-20/Proto 4 in-game and be properly accurate.
Some good points but I am not quite convinced.
There are assumptions being made on many aircraft which either never saw service or never saw service in the configuration we see in game.
Everything beyond service configuration in the end is fantasy to a varying degree.
AIM-120 was advertised so I see no issue.
Some aircraft in game got integrated equipment they did not have.
Regarding accuracy we are far enough off the mark anyway.
Just look at the requirements to take naval vessels into consideration for implementation.
If that is to much fantasy for you that is of course fair but I do not see that it would be beyond what is being done usually.
My person, if you want to play what the f20 would be with armrams play the jf17, thats the closest we have to an armram f20 also the f20 is fine at 12.3, imo one of the most balanced planes at the br
A big thing that kinda bothers me with people wanting AMRAAMs on the F-20 is that they ignore not just the flight model, but also the CMs count. It would be genuine pain to play at above 13.0 where it’s ARH-alley
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Yeah, 45 flares that fire in pairs are def not enough specially when you have like 6 missiles flying at you at any given time
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+1, I pre-ordered it with highest price but don’t want to play it at this br now at all
Even if you ignore the flight model the CM count is bad even for the current BR with the last change.
And i think there is no real discussion here, they just won’t give it AIM-120s.
Well, i played it at 12,3 and i’ll play again at some point - because now something happened with me and i try to spade things that i maybe shouldn’t or i don’t need to… At 12.3 is, fine. Not the best , but ok.
If the match is not 13.3 , it’s ok. At 13.3 just leave , mostly for the reason we say above… except you don’t have AIM-120s or IRCM missiles .
I’d recommend you to try it at least. Just don’t make the stupidy i did and play with only 9Ls. It’s very good plane to make you have patience when to act.
At 12,7 i didn’t play it , too. For the same reason… You had 2 brackets that you didn’t want to be (13,3-13,7) one that is…bearable (13.0 because only 4 planes) and one that was manageable …your own 12.7.
doesn’t the japanese F16 have 45 CM at 13.7
Yes, if i remember. Why you ask? :D
i doubt gaijin would add amraams to the current F20, but it wouldnt be completely out of the realm of possibilities for them to add another with amraams then, especially if it would be almost identical to the thai f16 but just a little bit worse
I’ve had to mention this multiple times in other discussions, but there is no way for us to get another F-20 unless we specifically got prototype 1, which was even worse than the current one is (no radar, no Sparrow integration, worse engine, worse cockpit).
Unfortunately, the first AMRAAM testbeds would’ve been a retrofit of prototype 3 sometime in 1987 (after prototype 4 had flown), and prototype 6 in late 1988 (which would be a test article for the Air Defense Fighter bid, sent to the USAF/USANG for evaluation and testing).
if we can have 3 JA37Ds I’m sure we can have 2 F20s, theres no rule that says we can’t have “F-20A (Prototype 3, Retrofit)” in game
The retrofitted F-20 never flew, and the AMRAAM-integration modifications were never done.
In the AMRAAM integration testbed form, it also would’ve had no guns, and been purely used for testing AMRAAM, Sparrow, and Sidewinder integration.
It did get retrofitted with the re-designed nose and APG-67 ERR, but it never ended up flying.
personally im all for vehicles that arent necessarily real, I think being very well planned should be enough cause then we would get way more interesting vehicles, plus an F20 with only amraams and no guns would be a decent 13.0
That isn’t a reason for Gaijin to stop, they just can’t have 2 premiums of the same vehicle, so this one likely has to be event, which means they kind of loose money. After all we do have Yak 141 and those German jets that also never flew. NVM stuff like Maus and E100.