Canada and Australia also have their vehicles scattered over 2 trees. Same probably for more nations that I can’t remember from the top of my head.
Yeah they do but they dont have their vehicles exclusively across multiple nations (no more than 1 in a TT).
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Turkey (Italy+USA), Poland (UK+Germany)
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It’s just because Gaijin has chosen India as a British subtree, the same way they decided to introduce Hungary and Romania for Italy.
I don’t like when one nation vehicles are scattered across multiple in-game nations TTs either, I was thinking about the possibility to gather setup under the same flag, for example people could play AMBT and T129 in the same setup, if it’s impossible to introduce a nation as a full TT or a subtree.
PS I think at least some day (not soon) we will see standalone TTs for India, Spain, Poland and Turkey, maybe with some subtrees.
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Yeah I would like to point out that Australia for example is scattered everywhere.
I wouldn’t mind some more spanish vehicles in the italian tech tree.
Germany is getting Switzerland therefore they should be good anyway, both on ground and air.
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Italian mains when another country is in Europe (sounds like an Italian tech tree)
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all your tanks are belong to italy
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Reasons Spain would be the best option for a German subtree:
- Germany and Spain were close allies during the war, Spain’s closest
- The Blue Squadron served with the Lufteaffe through the war, notably at kursk
- Until like the 60s the majority of vehicles in the Spanish Air Force were licensed and modified German designs
- CASA’s most significant indigenous aircraft were designed with help from MBB or designed by Messerschmitt himself
- Aircraft from other nations (mostly US and France postwar) perfectly fill the largest gaps in the German tree- here, the EF-18A for 12.3 which Germany is lacking anything 12.0-12.3 but Italy has the Tornado ADV, plus the EF-18A+ for 14.0 where Germany has the Typhoon and Italy has the Typhoon, JAS-39C, and hopefully soon F-16A with AMRAAMs.
Reasons to be an Italian subtree
- One of 22 countries to touch the Mediterranean
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largest gaps in the German tree- here, the EF-18A for 12.3 which Germany is lacking anything 11.7-12.3 but Italy has the Tornado ADV
I believe I speak on behalf of all italy players here, germany can have the tornado ADV if italy gets the EF18A
also the J39C and the F16 (if it got amraams) aren’t 14.0
3 actually
Saab 105ÖE sweden
M47 Germany
Sk 105 France
Germany doesn’t have anything above 13.0 but the Typhoon. Italy has the Typhoon, F-16, and JAS-39.
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Italy has no lacking areas in 13.x-14.0 the only reason to ask for vehicles like the F-18 here is pure greed. Maybe Italy will get an F-18 that they have no ties to because the community cries hard enough but im entirely against it until they need a gap filled and only that can maybe fill it.
I wouldn’t go that far but man would I love to see a proper Spanish subtree for Germany. There are so many interesting versions of German aircraft they designed, everything from 109s to 111s getting Merlins. That, and some jet gap-fillers such as the F-4C, Mirage F1M, and the EF-18A especially. And in ground the 2A6E would be great as well as all the Spanish Pattons.
Eh, we will need to see how the Swiss are added for the time. Im more interested in the Mirages but Austria is also likely to go to Germany which will add Saab 105ÖE, J29ÖE, J35ÖE all of which would only bolster areas where existing jets go. As for the Swiss i feel they will be more versatile than Austria considering Sweden air would be left with 2 unique jets lmao after austria is added.
I’m really not a fan of a Swiss subtree. First, they’re the neutral country, and shot down a number of German aircraft during the War- unlike “neutral” Spain that equipped volunteers to fight. Second, in terms of air, they’ve used a bunch of kit from basically everyone and except for the Mirage III didn’t have much indigenous development of the aircraft they used. And the only German aircraft they operated was the 109, unlike Spain which had a much higher concentration of German designs.
And then for Austria they’ve just used so few aircraft. Basically just a few rank 1s, then the Saab 29, 105, 35, and finally the F-15E and Typhoon. The only really notable aircraft is the J35Ö-II which I see as just being better as a simple Swedish premium.
Eh, knowing gaijin they are more likely to try to screw sweden over and make something vital to the TT be a premium so i doubt they’ll bother adder the J35ÖE given how poorly gaijin and their handling of the J35’s have been lol.
Personally im really interested in Swiss ground for Germany especially their light tanks
Ah yes except Spain during WW2 used:
Fiat G.50
Fiat CR.32
Breda Ba.65
Savoia Marchetti SM.79
Savoia Marchetti SM.81
FIAT BR.20
Caproni Ca.320
CANT Z.501
CANT Z.506
Basically half of the airplanes used were italian.
50000 italian troops were deployed during the Spanish civil war and to support them we also sent the Aviazione Legionaria, on top of this we also provided weapons, artillery guns, aircrafts and tankettes.
But please keep explaining me how Italy has no connection to spain.
Even our industry collaborated in multiple projects.
The Centauro is just one of the multiple programs.
I don’t know why I’m even discussing this considering that Gaijin said that Axis allies are destined to join the ITT.
Counterpoint-
He-51
Do-17
Bf 109
He-111
Ju-88
Do-24
And after the war
C-2.111
Ha.1109
Ha.1112
Ha-200
Ha-220
C-295
Not to mention 10000 troops, weapons, artillery, and actual tanks and not just tankettes. And later, Leo 2s.
Italy getting all allies of Axis powers is dumb and also extremely vague