Germany doesn’t have anything above 13.0 but the Typhoon. Italy has the Typhoon, F-16, and JAS-39.
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Italy has no lacking areas in 13.x-14.0 the only reason to ask for vehicles like the F-18 here is pure greed. Maybe Italy will get an F-18 that they have no ties to because the community cries hard enough but im entirely against it until they need a gap filled and only that can maybe fill it.
I wouldn’t go that far but man would I love to see a proper Spanish subtree for Germany. There are so many interesting versions of German aircraft they designed, everything from 109s to 111s getting Merlins. That, and some jet gap-fillers such as the F-4C, Mirage F1M, and the EF-18A especially. And in ground the 2A6E would be great as well as all the Spanish Pattons.
Eh, we will need to see how the Swiss are added for the time. Im more interested in the Mirages but Austria is also likely to go to Germany which will add Saab 105ÖE, J29ÖE, J35ÖE all of which would only bolster areas where existing jets go. As for the Swiss i feel they will be more versatile than Austria considering Sweden air would be left with 2 unique jets lmao after austria is added.
I’m really not a fan of a Swiss subtree. First, they’re the neutral country, and shot down a number of German aircraft during the War- unlike “neutral” Spain that equipped volunteers to fight. Second, in terms of air, they’ve used a bunch of kit from basically everyone and except for the Mirage III didn’t have much indigenous development of the aircraft they used. And the only German aircraft they operated was the 109, unlike Spain which had a much higher concentration of German designs.
And then for Austria they’ve just used so few aircraft. Basically just a few rank 1s, then the Saab 29, 105, 35, and finally the F-15E and Typhoon. The only really notable aircraft is the J35Ö-II which I see as just being better as a simple Swedish premium.
Eh, knowing gaijin they are more likely to try to screw sweden over and make something vital to the TT be a premium so i doubt they’ll bother adder the J35ÖE given how poorly gaijin and their handling of the J35’s have been lol.
Personally im really interested in Swiss ground for Germany especially their light tanks
Ah yes except Spain during WW2 used:
Fiat G.50
Fiat CR.32
Breda Ba.65
Savoia Marchetti SM.79
Savoia Marchetti SM.81
FIAT BR.20
Caproni Ca.320
CANT Z.501
CANT Z.506
Basically half of the airplanes used were italian.
50000 italian troops were deployed during the Spanish civil war and to support them we also sent the Aviazione Legionaria, on top of this we also provided weapons, artillery guns, aircrafts and tankettes.
But please keep explaining me how Italy has no connection to spain.
Even our industry collaborated in multiple projects.
The Centauro is just one of the multiple programs.
I don’t know why I’m even discussing this considering that Gaijin said that Axis allies are destined to join the ITT.
Counterpoint-
He-51
Do-17
Bf 109
He-111
Ju-88
Do-24
And after the war
C-2.111
Ha.1109
Ha.1112
Ha-200
Ha-220
C-295
Not to mention 10000 troops, weapons, artillery, and actual tanks and not just tankettes. And later, Leo 2s.
Italy getting all allies of Axis powers is dumb and also extremely vague
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So a fraction of manpower and Pazer Is.
You licensed them the Leopard 2, while we made the Centauro and the specialized Centauro Recovery vehicle that they requested and are the only user, collaborated with them for the VEC, the VEC with the SIDAM turret, the recon Dragoon will use an italian turret, the main Dragoon will use a turret that was developed with the help of Leonardo.
And the spanish army is looking to procure the Centauro 2.
If you keep thinking that Italy has no ties with Spain, well I can’t help it.
Not just the panzer I but Panzer III and IV as well and Stugs. And the Leopard 2A4 and worked with them on the Verdejas, M47E, M48A5E, Lince, AMX-30EM2, and Leo 2E. And also the C-2.111, Ha.1109, Ha.1112, Ha-200, Ha-220, and C-295. And Spanish troops fought with the German army, not the Italian one.but sure, keep saying Germany has no ties with Spain.
“Fought with Germany”
Everyone joined Barbarossa, literally everyone.
And the thing is, contrary of you, I never denied German ties with Spain, although I see that you like to boost the vehicle list with dubious choices to say the least.
Why don’t we get rid of national trees if everyone gets vehicles they have no relation to?
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Facts
Guys with the addition of the Tiger Helicopter to the german TT it is CLEAR that a spanish F-18 mostdefinetly would be a german and not an italian premium/squadroon vehicle.
Germany received it because DASA, one of the two companies that founded Eurocopter, was german.
The Eurocopter Tiger can be seen as a 50/50 project between France and Germany, although afaik France seemed to actually manage Spain’s acquisitions.
Anyway Gaijin just added it to fill the premium gap the German TT had.
or maybe he added it for the same reason he added a Swiss hunter to Germany.
Historical context
Blue division.
Blue Legion.
Blue squadron.
- Spain had SIGINT and radio beacons under German service.
- Spain gave shelter and refueling to German submarines and airplanes.
- Spain was rescuing German pilots in the Mediterranean with the DO-24.
The United States even seriously considered invading Spain, and surely if the Germans had not invaded the USSR, Spain would have ended up entering the war under German pressure, even though they were too afraid of the Royal Navy (fear of interception of food convoys).
Gameplay context
CASA 2.111
HA-1112
Saeta
Super Saeta
F5
Mirage III
Mirage F-1
F-18
AV8
Tiger HAD (spikes)
The problem I see is that they overlap with the Eurofighter (the Spanish one has IRST).
Another option would be to make a new branch (which Gaijin does not want) with Iberia/LATAM/Poland. It would be a great combination of NATO and USSR.
Also, as historical context, Poland and Franco’s Spain were very close, to the point that Spain kept the Polish ambassador during WW2 (President of the Polish government in exile).
Also, all the countries mentioned are Catholic :)
Don’t diss the AMX and Centauro, it saved me the struggle of stock grinding every vehicle to get to top tier. I mean, I still stocked grinded, but at least I could still do something else while grinding.
45k troops (counting replacements)
You mean to fill the gap?
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