sadly i agree with this statement, but something that i want it to point it out is that this is not against smin or that we are mad at him, this is against the devs and their horrendous claims, decisions, actions and communication it is their fault that smin is in this situation. am pretty sure that all of us wants a dev present in this topic listening and responding to us instead of smin, smin have to deal with all the backlash meanwhile the devs just throw the message at him and then turn a blind eye as if what we feel and say don’t matter at all and this is what its happening right now, they don’t care about us, if they did, we wouldn’t be in this situation, neither smin nor us is simple as that. we are just wasting time in fighting for something that its in vain, our time, our ideas, our proposals, our dedication its all in vain.
So what’s the point to add just another F-16 clone then?
Maybe it’s time to make a step fowrad and give the missiles?
#freesmin
This variant is not a “clone” just because its an F-16. There are many differences and uogrades from this variant compared to existing ones as detailed in the blog and as can be seen from the model.
This is a unique Israeli upgrade and naturally one we would not skip over.
just play differently then lmao
theres an F4 phantom at 13.0 just because it has 4 aim120As
yet it faces planes with ,better flight performance" and are ,much stronger in dogfight"
dont play it then if you cant handle it :^
That’s insanly stupid
at this point its just an F-16D with “slightly” better ARH missiles, better RWR, (maybe) radar, and with SPICE 250’s. i wouldnt really call it unique unless it gets a Python 4.
i think its cool how they butchered this jet lmao.
the kh38s got their range almost doubled to 70km yet this thing ONLY get guided bombs.
couldve have atleast give it some of its ground missiles(popeye lite or rampage) even if theyre nerfed to a certain extent.
jesus christ bvvd
i will take derby over 120c5 cuz u wouldnt do bvr with it anyway against the f15e and ef2k
so its just f16d with better avionics and worse armament
14.0 and 13.0 are not comparable at all
It could be
Italian Eurofighters were exhibited with Brimstones as possible armament.
While the plane looks amazing, I think it came in way too early
As it stands currently, it lacks any of the weapons that would differentiate it from any other F-16s in the Israeli TT (especially since the Baraks got the SPICE bombs). The AIM-120C-5 is also a massive downgrade over even the Derby as it not only turns worse but bleeds significantly more speed during turns compared to any other ARH missile, making it the worst missile for air rb. (So it would be very benefitial if it got the AIM-120A/B)
And sure, the Spice 250 is cool but it isn’t even the ER variant and since it has an IR seeker it is impossible to use its GNSS guidance mode
(Also would appreciate if you could take a look at this report regarding SPICE series of bombs missing laser guidance Community Bug Reporting System )
It isnt too early
Nerfed python 4 for with 120 is very much on par with other thing is the game
Ppl who thinks that a 14.3 and even14.0 jets will struggle against a sufa with python 4 are either baised or delusional
The traditional meme

Awful take.
For 1v1 to be even remotely useful information you’d need to make sure both players have the same skill level.
Even with that, ARB is a 16v16 mode, so 1v1s are far from the only thing that can happen there.
dont worry am a duelist and i know 2 really good tournament players and also duelists that they are really excited to do this match, BVR and BFM combat.
You still haven’t proved you have same skill level as them. And my point about making statements about ARB from 1v1s still stands.
eh? if i know them is because i play with them they would not be accepting a match if they consider that the player does not offer a challenge to them, you dont know how tournament players or duelists are?, and yes in the way we do the BVR and BFM combat you can see how the jets performs in every regard i can even talk with them to do a more realistic representation of an ARB match with 6 good players in 6 superior jets in the other side against 1 SUFA and a good player if that will suffice you, in this way you will see how the sufa performs in a way more hostile and unfair envirovment, nothing better than that right mate. anyways this is becoming off topic soo… lets go back to the main point. the addition of the Python-4.
Those are Brimstone 2s, the main point was that Eurofighters never carried Brimstone 1s, which is similar to the Sufa getting Sidewinders, which it apparently never carried IRL
As for them being on an Italian EFT, Italy doesn’t use Brimstone 2s. IF Gaijin wanted to keep it entirely historical, Italy wouldn’t have Brimstones on their EFT ingame