F-16C Barak I armament

I’m wondering why the Barak 1 doesn’t get the Derby on the devserver despite being able (to my knowledge) and I wish to suggest that it does. I found this on the Rafael website and I wonder if anyone has documentation regarding the mounting of the Derby.


This is quite obviously the tail section of an F-16 missing the dorsal spine as well, meaning its not a Barak II.
Thank you in advance and apologies for poor wording!

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/HgxI7cJleCiR
Missing Derby report

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/mmL5kG7bjrdW
Missing Python-4 report

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It should hopefully get the Derby, as the plane was compatible with it. And yes this is the F-16C Barack II, as it’s the F-16C Block 40 which they designated the Barack II, with the Barack I being the F-16C block 30 iirc. And leave it to gaijin to give us the worse of the two, as the Barack I has better flight performance… who could have guessed…

Also, I believe the Israeli F-16Cs don’t have the dorsal spines if I’m not mistaken, that’s the F-16I and F-16D only I believe, but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

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Yep, only the I and D have dorsal spines. I have no clue why Gaijin consistently gives Israel the bad versions of everything, I propose that we ask Gaijin to upgrade the Barak I to the Barak II standard so that we avoid another Baz Meshupar situation.

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Voted same issue on both!

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The F-16C is missing the 9X too

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9X isnt in the files and is wayy too good for the game rn. Imagine an R-73 with a Stinger seeker and the range of a sparrow.

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by the numbers we can confirm that is block 40 even rn its calld barak 2 and not just barak (the barak 2 is the 40s, the just barak ones is block 30) so yes derby indeed. but python 4… i wish we can touch some new ir missiles…
hope gaijin would see and hear us! WE NEED DERBY ON THIS!

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And the Python 4 is not to advanced. Wasn’t it like 50g’s and uv and “shuteye” irccm

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it’s not like the US really needs the 9X regardless, if anything they should just get later 9M blocks, the pressing issue in this thread is derby regardless

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iirc, it gets dual band IRCCM and 50g with a pretty big off boresite, but it’s not the first time the israelis have had the best missile in game due to a python 🤷‍♂️

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lets not forget the fact that the PL-5E-II that the J-10 and the JF-17 got it have the IRCCM of the TY-90 IRL soo… a report was made and it got passed to devs yesterday, soo… i dont know you guys but that missile is not finished right now but when it gets finished it would be damn scary taking in count his speed and acceleration + that IRCCM! the PL-5E-II and Python-4 IRCCM would be cool.

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Among other items…


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f-16_popeye_2

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@x-GeeNo_MS-x
Im confused by this reply under your Derby report. Does that mean AIM-120 will be removed from IAF F-16C? I dont really get if he’s agreeing with us on this and AIM-120 will be removed or if its something else

YES, i talk about them on the diffrent conv
good to know that im not alone here!
edit: heheheheh Popeye heheheh

i don’t see how that’s related to what i said 🧐

sounds lik ehtey’re yapping about how it doesnt get a target illuminator or datalink or some shit like that, yet they gave 16D ARH already so it just doolally speak

F-16D used Derby at some point so its fully justifed. F-16C carrying AIM-120 tho is just fantasy

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Sorry for the late answer i was on my job, talking about the report: yes it means that the AIM-120 would be removed from the F-16C Block 40, it should not be there in the first time AIM-120 and AIM-9M are completly fictional, like he said the first operational F-16 in IAF service with AMRAAMs was the SUFA, and the first F-15 to recive AMRAAMs was the F-15I Ra´am, and later the modernized F-15A/B, C/Ds, the Historical loadout of the F-16C Barak II Block 40 should be AIM-9Ls, Python-4 and if they want the Derby too because the evidence is there.

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