F-16A, suited for 12.3?

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Define “normalized”

In close dogfight? Sure. Hell, 18A would beat them if used right
But in BVR? I dunno. Su-27 would have slight edge in BVR due to better missiles (R-27ERs).
True 1v1s where it boils down to BFM are pretty rare in normal ARB.
(The chance to get third-partied is also greatly increased. You’re busy gunning someone down and Mirage F1 fires the Magic 2.)

And if your enemy has more than two braincells to know that if you bog the Hornet down to crawl, he has basically won the fight already

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Most players change their fuel amount depending on afterburning fuel consumption.
I have mine set to 7 minutes, though I’ve heard players set them anywhere from 4 minutes to 12 minutes.

If you let your F-18 get slow to begin with, you’ve failed in maneuvering correctly.
Especially with a meta sustained turn rate.

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I don’t use that enhanced fuel thingy
I run 75%, if I recall correctly
By the time I get to center of map, long way around, I have about 12 mins of fuel which gives me optimal turn rate with 4x AIM-7 and 2x AIM-9

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Most players do not have a clue about anything in this game. Most.

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Honestly,
With a bit exaggration, this take feels like

F-14A needs to be 9.7BR because it has AIM-9G as IR missiles which AV-8C has

or

F-86A-5 needs to be 2.7BR because it only has 6 50cal same as P-40 does.

IT just cannot be either 11.7 or 12.0
I really don’t want to see that 4th-gen bastard shares the same BR with F-111F(11.7) or Phantom F.3(12.0)

It should’ve back to 12.7 long ago if Compression weren’t SNAFU like this.

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Fun fact; the tornados at 12.3 have Aim-9Ms

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Doesnt matter now anyway.

F16s were on life support amd are now 100% RIP after flankers now win 1 vs 1.

Every update more jets added yet equates to less choice. All.fox 2 f16s are in the bin. Fox 3 f16s not far behind. F16a… just lol

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F-111F is a strike plane anyway, it doesn’t really matter in an uptier. Situational kills from other people’s mistakes are on the menu, but it’s not that it wouldn’t be underdog anyway.
Phantom F.3 …well , in 12.3 uptier again you are outgunned.
They will still meet it if it was 12.7 anyway…
The problem is the compression in general. You can’t think many planes to not have a problem in uptiers…even in the slightest uptier.

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If you thought this, you should check out what the MiG-29 has been doing!

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Mig 29smt. My highest KD TT jet and iv got most?

R27s… always have a chance even vs raf amd EF

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Do you actually, and I mean really actually believe any of the 29s are meta rn? Or even on the upper end of their BRs?

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Better than every f16, yes

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Holy copium

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Fox 2 f16 or mig 29 12.7

Isnt really a choice after flanker buff…

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belgian f16 clears the 12.7 mig29s

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Fire 27s amd return to base… f16 is doing what?

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So lose most of your games due to no game impact? F-16 is getting the same amount if not more kills and isn’t RTBing after 30 seconds of combat

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Ganes are won or lost by the time the 27s are spent. You know this

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Not by the first 2 r27ers fired. Extremely easy to have 1 or even both r27ers wasted