Hello people.
I found what seems to be one of the most overtiered planes in game. The F-16A.
The F-16A is a technological marvel. Years of research and development put out a fighter that can dwarf the F-4. Except…does it?
You have the “Fighter Mafia” to thank for, for this fighter despite it’s advanced avionics, can only fire Aim-9s!!
I think, aside from it’s “modernity” and “coolness” it is overtiered, hence people were upset about it.
Another IR only fighter that is worthless against half competent players who knows how to flare, and has to rely on the guns (oh boy, we’re in the 1980s!).
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Aim-9L is essentially worthless on 12.3. The earliest of the 9L on a fighter is on the F-5A(G), a 11.0 planes.
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It doesn’t have SARH missiles, which makes it very very easily defeated.
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It’s missiles are inferior to lower tier planes or equal tier, such as R-73 of Bison, Magic 2 of Mirage.
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It’s radar is horrible. Bison and F-20A has way better radar that are notch-resistsnt. Although not having SARHs mean radar is only good for seeker-slaving.
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its ammo count is low, for a gunfighter.
Just how bad it is? We have the latest data from Statshark…and no, it’s not just “le horrible US players”.
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This is the funniest thread you have made so far
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10.7 with the Sea Harrier FRS1e.
However, it’s flight performance is incredible compared to those.
Wait until you play Russian planes with 200 rounds, rather than the 500 in US planes.
It’s in a tough spot, but it’s far from overtiered.
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F-16A is overtiered in 12.3BR?
not claiming undertiered instead?? why?
Because you can’t bomb with it cause of 13.0 AIM-120 slingers?
I am 200% sure that whole Netz enjoyers want to punch you hard.
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Ridiculous take. F-16A flies way better than F-5A(G)
Okay then, send our EF-2000 to 11.7 as long as A-10C uses the same AIM-9M. :/
That is why it was sent down to 12.3 shamelessly.
What do you think about Netz and Kurnass 2000 then??
You have six, while Bison or Mirage has 2
Man… as long as AIM-9L is non-IRCCM, then Seeker slaving and radar are meaningless nearly every time.
SHar FRS.1 also has radar with AIM-9L combo. But I am sure that only a few guys will use radar slaving as long as radar and RWR let them know that it is being detected.
Stealth-fire without slaving will work better.
BAe Harrier II’s 25mm ADEN will laugh at this claim. (100 per gun)
I just can’t understand why you are claiming F-16A is ‘overtiered’
Unless you are whining again because of ‘I cannot bomb in F-16A’
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I don’t want to deal with F16s in my F8E. It can stay where it is.
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Suggesting that a 4th-generation air superiority jet fighter should be lower or at the same BR than some of the worse rear-aspect-only IR missile-equipped F-4 Phantoms is a pretty crazy take, my guy.
The F-16A can quite literally run around circles and win against anything at its current BR when it comes to even remotely close to a dogfight or daring to bleed speed near you.
Being non-SARH equipped F-16A isn’t even a big deal when you can still fly low and use the terrain multipathing to dodge against every single SARH missile in the game. The F-16A still has insane performance compared to other 3rd generation jets to pull this off rather easily.
The AIM-9L is still a great performance IR missile even if it can be flared.
It is still way more practical for use at longer ranges and certain scenarios than something like the R-60M.
You have to be more patient or wait until you know that the enemy jet is indeed distracted, full afterburning to use AIM-9Ls more efficiently.
The #1 mistake I honestly see people when they use AIM-9Ls is wasting them because they spam them off in the front aspect locks expecting a guaranteed kill (the enemy player is almost certainly going to be looking ahead and not their rear most of the time so no duh they are going to see it coming and flare it away).
If you are also >1km in a rear aspect lock + full-on afterburning. The AIM-9L will be harder to a lot harder to flare for enemy jets in general. (F-14/F-111 players will hate you if you do this to them).
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Oh no, no we are not doing this, god no
The F-16A is in no way overtiered, it may be in a 12.15, but where it is currently it is not at all. The fact of it being IR only makes it so that the player must find a playstyle which absolutely abuses them. It’s also the most maneuverable of the entire F-16 series, as it does not currently have an AOA limiter (to my knowledge)
Which also sit in an under BR’ed non existent point, which these two are easily defended against as well. Once again, don’t let the Mirage fire it behind you
Not really something that’s needed, seeing as it doesn’t get Sparrows, and it’s only really useful for EEGS, infact, slaving is actually detrimental as the enemy is more likely to pick up on a launch and flare it due to them seeing the pings on their RWR
Block 10s in the US arsenal never had the ability (at least not the one represented ingame) to fire nor did they ever mount the AIM-7 series of missiles, with the F-16A Block 15 getting this capability.
512 rounds is more than capable, lower tier aircraft, say Bf-109 F-4, can only carry 200 rounds of 20mm despite being dedicated gunfighters. The 30mm AKANs on the Draken series can only carry 100 rounds each. America notoriously has higher ammo counts compared to other nations at almost every BR
And finally, as you state it as one if the most overtiered, I assume that means you aren’t thinking of a .3 decrease and rather a 1-1.3 decrease. just no
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Speaking of statshark and ‘le horrible US players’ let’s check your statshark.
How curious
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0.2 kills per death on the AJ. Jesus christ
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well, gap between M2Ks4 and F-16A isnt that big
Bait used to be believable
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Holy, okay OP. Why do you whine about its missiles though? What you’re gonna do is bomb in it and feed other people kills, keep it that way and keep it shut.
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He’s one of those people who straps as many bombs on as many planes as he possibly can.
real overitiered plane: F-84F
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My poor boys suffering because of gaijin’s incompetence at balancing :(
Does only the best players can comment on the performance of vehicles? Pretty sure gaijin takes into everyone’s stats (therefore average) to balance.
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more rather, people who intentionally do bad shouldn’t really be taken at face value lol
Seriously how do you do bad in a Persian F-14 and Eurofighter.
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