I agree with you; I am just saying that the reason the OCU hasn’t been moved down in comparison to say, an F16C, is because of BR compression, and that if the BRs were decompressed even in its current messed up state it could at least be balanced.
Personally, I’d argue the Su-34 is still superior in A2A given the higher missile count, superior radar, option to carry R-27ET & much more preferable CM count (obviously its also better in A2G). Gaijin giving the F-16 OCU an ahistorical HMD for IR aams has made the two closer, but still. the OCU could probably drop to 13.3 in it’s current config, though that’s treading a dangerous line and I would much rather see the amraam removed.
yeah, I think that the Su-34 should be moved up, not the OCU moved down. The answer to compression is not more compression, even though the OCU does really need a buff.
I don’t, it’s overrated from what I see
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well, I don’t think it should be moved up alone, it should be moved up with a bunch of other vehicles if decompression comes.
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And now imagine F-104S.ASA getting uptiered to your IRIAF with RWR which doesn’t even show direction.
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Draken vs IRIAF was the funniest shit ever, they don’t even get an RWR-
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“Just look at RWR and notch it! It seems that you are Skilless zomber!”
Was what they said. XD
It performs better in terms of CAS (4x AIM120 / 2x AIM120 + AIM-9M * 6x Mav + 2x GBU-12), but with a worse targeting pod, worse airframe.
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agreed, it’d be amazing at CAS w/ a slightly lower Ground BR, and still be sort of competitive in 13.0 Air
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Also, if they allowed it the 8x maverick loadout instead of arbitrarily preventing it, it would truly be a standout 13.0.
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Love the new animation of this meme
Better solution: dont play any of the thailand sub tree :^)
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Man, that sucks, good luck fighting eurofighters, F15E and rafale
Then add F-2
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Ask BVVD and Gaijin staff. I have no authority
No it can’t be balanced because it is ahistorical. F-16A OCU never had AMRAAMs, and therefore it’ll always be in limbo as it has 45CM, 6 hardpoints and AMRAAMs. Remove the AIM-120s, you get a F-16 with only 9M and superior CAS. It’d fit well into 13.0 territory as it is superior to the F-16AJ in terms of CAS, missiles and features. It’d just be the Belgian F-16A but with slightly better CAS.
Also would shorten the gap between 11.3 F-5T and 13.7 F-16A.
+also yes we still need BR decompression. I think even with that though, it’d be an oddball. It wants to use AIM-120s but kinda lacks anything else for a top tier aircraft.
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Considering how many Japanese/Thai vehicles are treated, I doubt any of them will be truely historical. F-5T lacks additional hardpoints, F-16AJ just doesn’t exist, Alpha Jets lack new engine, Ki-200 is actually the J8M1 (while the actual Ki-200 isn’t in game either), AH-1S Kisa has CM but Cobra doesn’t, Type 10/TKX Armour + Transmission, etc.
They “fixed” it, but just renamed the engines but didn’t change the thrust.