Same goes for JAS39A/C.
Both Gripen models can supercruise with low fuel/ 4 missiles or 50 percent fuel with clean configuration while E model can do it with much higher fuel+ combat loadout.
1 Like
Thats the thing that made me consider but since its an F-16 I didn’t even thought it could supercruise in the first place.
I’d assume it can super cruise with an Air to Air loadout.
Judging the source it will most likely, hopefully it can recieve Aim-9M’s at 13.3.
Unlikely, since it was only ever planned to use AIM-9Ls.
Both missile shares same wiring and rails thus there is nothing to stop from Gaijin to add 9M’s to XL if they want to.
The F-16XL should not get the AIM-9M, as it never carried, nor was it intended to carry them.
Even giving the XL AMRAAMs is a far stretch, since it only ever flew with wooden mockups.
Like Yak-141/ Mıg29G that never recieved R27ER/ET’s irl?
Its much better proof than certain prototypes that functions perfectly in this game.
I don’t know where you’re getting the idea that the Yak-41 wasn’t planned to use R-27Es, but it most definitely was.
In fact if we’re going off proposals, Yak-41 needs it’s R-77.
This is true, East German MiG-29s didn’t use R-27E’s, and they should be removed.
We don’t need another Kh-38 thread.
Didnt say it wasn’t planned I said it never recieved, just like F-16XL.
Both planes was tested with mockup missile, in Yak-141 cases its even worse because they never installed mock-up R27ER’s on fusalege in the first place.
You’re condiracting with yourself in here.
Sure, dont forget to raise its br to 13.3 while adding R-77.
Wasn’t referring to KH-38MT’s but rather other prototype vehicles.
Yes, if it were up to me, the Yak-141 wouldn’t have been added.
However, if Gaijin is going to give any missiles to the F-16XL, then we must use what was proposed for the F-16XL, just as we would with the Yak-141. Otherwise it’ll solely be a gunfighter with a good CAS loadout.
Yeah.
Medium Range Fox-3s on 4th gen platforms should be 13.3 at minimum if not higher. I don’t think that’s a hot take.
Most other people would be referring to the Kh-38MT, I apologize for my assumption.
But even so. I’m against adding prototypes. And if Gaijin DOES add prototypes, they should be as accurate as possible.
No worries.
The only reason I think it could recieve the Aim-9M is because of the compression, at 13.3 Aim-9L’s just doesn’t cut it, not to mention I’m pretty sure if it went into service it would’ve likely gonna use Aim-9M.
Anyway decision is up to Gaijin so either way I’m fine with it.
Most likely, but unfortunately, it didn’t.
I think Gaijin should keep it at the same BR as the F-16A ADF. So you can choose between x6 AMRAAMs or x4 AMRAAMs and x2 9Ls.
(depending on how they do the flight model. Since the XL should be better due to better engine and higher wing loading. At least when it comes to instantaneous turn rate)
In this case most concerning thing is the amount of CM’s.
If it still has 60CM it would be drawback in my book.
What are you talking about?
F100 and F110 are the two engines.
The F100 has 200, 220, 220E variants etc.
The F110 has 100, 129, and 132 variants etc.
So when you say they went from F110 to 129… ? What? You mean the -100 to the -129?
Regardless, the F110 has a very large bypass ratio unlike something like the F414 in the Gripen so it is no surprise the Gripen is better at supercruise. F110 is like 0.76:1 and the F414 is like 0.25:1 iirc.
As for the F-16, a larger intake and a higher bypass ratio engine would not likely enable supercruise… just the opposite outside of raw thrust increase from the better engine. Hard to say without documentation but I would not expect much “supercruise”. Probably 1.05 mach like the F-15. This is more about exhaust velocity than thrust vs drag after a certain point because the engine core flow has to accelerate that subsonic bypass air.
3 Likes
Ahh, yeah, sorry- I never really got to understanding U.S. engine or radar naming conventions.
They changed from the GE-100 to the GE-129
It seems like the XLs had a few different engines (F-100-PW-200, F101-GE-102, F110-GE-100, and the F110-GE-129), but in the end they had GE-129s.
Not gonna lie I’m more of GE enjoyer due to its leaf design.
I just want whatever makes the most power.
In thrust we trust
1 Like