Bug report:
F-16C missing SADL
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/vgZoidxjgwWM
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Gib Sniper pod for A-10C for now and then gib it to everybody a patch later
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Can anyone also help this bug report to be bumped so Gaijin would notice this in the future patch fix?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/DVJcVehVcvaM
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Sadly, this variant service 2 years (Air National Guard). but EF-18A+ Hornet from SASF equipped Litening ER targeting pod
F/A-18C/D from USMC and Finnish (MLU 2 standard) supply this variant
A-10C for Air National Guard serviced used Litening G4 in 2008 ~ 2013
F-16AM/BM MLU (RDAF & FAA) supply Litening G4
Very popular targeting pod until now
USAF service A-10C, F-15E & F-16C, Harrier GR.9/GR.9A (RAF) and export operators equipped Sniper XR
Since AIM-7 has no topic of its own on the new forum:
Bug report about changing the warhead of AIM-7M to the improved WAU-17 from the current WAU-10:
AIM-7F/M warhead and diameter:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/s9NTFiWXA3ls
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They come up with new excuses regularly now for why they don’t want to adjust the flight performance. Internally they simply stated they didn’t feel like adjusting old FM’s in regards to the F-5 series but that wasn’t a good enough excuse. So instead - they simply stated they believe the tertiary Russian sources over the NATOPS. Crazy.
It is just an arcade game, people need to understand that and take it to heart.
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It seems so. Could probably try one more time at a bit lower AoA and a bit higher speed (like 20degree AoA or something) but I’ve other projects that I’d like to spend time on right now that don’t require bug reporting. One of them is looking into engine fuel consumption, because one of the many reasons some planes feel shit is because we are taking too much fuel with them.
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Bug report :
F-16C: APG-68 missing GMTI, GMTT, SSS, SST modes:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/IsQzIUqd2Mvk
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@Gunjob any chance you can take a look at these bug reports from @sudo_su1 ?
F-16C missing SADL
F-16C: APG-68 missing GMTI, GMTT, SSS, SST modes
Both are relatively major missing features that already exist in-game on other planes…
Sidenote to SADL, I wonder what other NATO aircrafts have it or something similar to it. Id be surprised if only the F-16C and A-10C had such a beneficial feature.
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I expect gajin working AN/AAQ-33 Sniper XR and instead placeholder targeting pod (AN/AAQ-28(V) Litening II) this year
As far as air to air is concerned, Link 16 should provide similar functionality (and more).
As far as air to ground is concerned, it’s a bit complicated.
SADL supposedly works with US army’s EPLRS radios (which BTW seems the US army has phased out in favor of the newer apparently satellite-based BFT system, though it’s not clear if SADL can work directly with the latter as well or not … @MiG_23M might be able to chime in here, though he might get someone knocking on his door tomorrow morning if he does).
Theoretically Link 16 should provide similar functionality, but it probably needs some airborne or ground based relays.
The issue here is while the capability would be realistic, IRL you could target and destroy/disable/jam those (airborne/ground-based/space-based) relays, which obviously isn’t the case in the game. So it’s a bit complicated in terms of realism.
But can it directly communicate with Link 16 or SADL without relaying/translating platforms?
M1A2 SEPV2+ equipped with EPLRS / FBCB2 (C2)
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The issue with that is that those are from 2007 and 2014.
Apparently EPLRS got phased out, in favor of the beyond-line-of-sight (satellite based) BFT1/2 networks.
Now this might not be that important, since even with EPLRS not all tanks in a match are gonna have those radios (e.g. from other nations), but WT already assumes that they do.
But only A-10C and F-16C have SADL.
If you look at this picture from your second source for example:
You can see that the ground units aren’t using Link 16.
They can communicate through EPLRS, SADL and VMF.
Now according to this chart F/A-18 (I assume legacy), F-35 and Typhoon can communicate through VMF, but for example F/A-18E/F, F-22 and F-15 can only do Link 16:
I can’t speak on the matter, I can only let the sources speak for themselves. To my knowledge you wouldn’t need to directly communicate with the aircraft from a specific vehicle. Rather - they’d get live updates from the satellite network or through a node.
Hence
When every vehicle is a relay it’s hard to destroy the system without first destroying the satellite and then also separating the groups from any nodes with sufficiently strong means of communication. It’s quite comprehensive and low maintenance. As the sources say “self-healing”.
I also highly doubt any current foreign jamming systems can actually truly jam these nodes.