Also don’t talk abt my baby like that, I love the OCU
The only reason I see for that to happen is having Fox 3s, HMS and Python 3s, which actually turn unlike AIM-9s. I just can’t forgive its CM count.
Python 3s are fun, especially 1-2km in a headon when people expect a gunfight (in RB atleast)
Pythons can be fun because of the proxy fuse, but if the enemy is paying any attention at all, they aren’t hitting.
I see it as a sidegrade.
Do you want the flight model at the cost of HMD , irccm and a few more countermeasures or do you want to play the heavier 16C with the convenience
Everything about F-16C Block 50 is better except wing loading.
ADF is nearly a tonne lighter allowing for a much better instantaneous turn and over a full G harder turns allowing you to get into notches faster, alongside bleeding less energy, and although the engine’s static thrust is weaker, it’s peak TWR is superior, which leads to a slightly better top speed and acceleration at altitude, although at sea level it is slightly weaker.
Flight model and extra acceleration at altitude will help it in BVR, of which lacking HMD or IRCCM isn’t really an issue, and in today’s BVR meta this is definitely worth something.
Notching and off bore counter launching with HMS within like 5-20 kilometers is literally the meta gameplay loop, what are you talking about. HMS is absolutely essential to launch a missile and return to the notch angle as fast as possible. Tall ACM box is workable, but HMS is much better.
AIM-9Ms are only good because of their seeker and smokeless motor, which makes them good for intercepting. Take it away and you have an absolutely trash missile for dogfights compared to R-73, Magic 2 or Python 3, that’s precisely what AIM-9L is. Within 1km AIM-9s are barely any better than just using guns.
BVR is not the meta at all, at least not in sim
not anymore, its now 45 (30x Normal, 15x Large) for ADFs and 60 (30x Normal, 30x Large) for MLU
Didn’t see that. Big yikes for the ADFs.
AM only gets MAWs with the CM pods if I recall correctly
What? Why? Missiles in WT have negligible drag. No reason to forfeit 2x aim-120
Most suspended armament drag values are nonsense in WT. For example, 3 mavericks have less drag than a single AIM-9
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personally i think best plane will be jf 17
I never heard of the ADFs recieving the AN/APG-66(V)3…
I wonder where they got that from, as everything I’ve read states that the ADFs were still stuck with the APG-66(V)1 till their retirement.
The countermeasures situation tho is a big yikes for the ADF. 45 CMs at 13.3 is gonna put it in a bad place at its own tier or in uptiers. The lack of HMS is also going to be a pain too.
And IMO the ADFs should get an IRCCM missile. If not the 9M than the AIM-9P-5 would suffice.
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So how did the aircraft do BVR? Was it intended to ONLY be a WVR plane? If so, why AMRAAM?
clearly you havent played the OCU because it also has 45 countermeasures at 13.7. And it has been in the game for a while now.
Yes, i haven’t played the OCU unfortunately.
From what i hear its going to be an ADF at a higher BR while not having much advantage over the lower tiered ADFs, which is absurd in my opinion.
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whats the point of F-16C anymore
9ms, hmd and much better ground ordnance.
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