when is it going to dogfight in a real game? the F-35 is a SEAD platform primarily not an intercepter
in real world combat configs it has less drag than an F-16 due to the internal weapons bays.
see above^^. All-aspect ECM, ESM, RWR, DL etc. fused together makes up for it.
Mainly true but like I’ve said it’s a SEAD platform and going Mach 1.5+ would degrade stealth because of RAM limits and the Doppler effect. It can carry 8 SDB’s and 2 AIM-260’s which has similar range to PL-15 and Meteor.
And what does that matter to war thunder?
It will be the only 5th gen aircraft the vast majority of nations will get.
You are not going to carry 3 bags in an F-16 in war thunder, it obviously beats an F-16 carrying the same amount of fuel because the F-16 has to carry it in bags, when both are clean they rate and turn almost the same.
This are things that literally all other 5th gen fighters have and a lot of 4.5 gen too.
Doesn’t change the fact that if you go stealth you will have less missiles than the Pobit, the F-22 carries 6 AMRAAMS and 2 AIM-9X, J-20 6 PL-15 with folding wings and 2 PL-10, Su-57 can carry R-37M in the bays and again has 2 side bays for IR missiles.
It’s going to be a decent CAS plane but again, war thunder air battles are not like that, even nuclear thunder isn’t like that.
Germany, Great Britain, Japan, Italy, France, Sweden and Israel will only ever get the F-35
US, Russia and China will be the only nations that will get competitive meta aircraft in the future.
you said
so why does it need to turn fight if it never needs to dogfight?
F-16 is not gonna carry 3 tanks IRL unless its doing A-A or traveling. It’s suited for SEAD w/ HARM’s, JSOWS or SDB in game. Why would it do A-A when the EX or GE is better suited?
so its on par then which is good.
Versus an F-16 et al., the combination of stealth, radar, and the AIM-260 will provide a first-shot opportunity with a missile that outclasses the AIM-120 in every respect. Future upgrades Sidekick racks however, J-20 might be a problem, but Su-57 can only carry 2 R-37M’s.
True I’m sure the players have their own optimistic visions of what the game modes will evolve into.
SEAD with JDAM crazy
The 35 has been tested with third set of amraams in internal bays already so this is definitely valid
6x2 is comparable to every other 5th Gen. And if stealth is not what it’s cracked up to be in WT then it gets 14x2
External 9X-blk2+ maintains F-35s stealth signature.
Come to this topic to read what is happening with EX/IA, and everyone’s waffling about F-35, lol
dev server closed?
More like people have no idea what to estimate lmao
Should be closed by this time, yes.
not even in service yet
F-35 entered service in 2015
can we not put aircraft not yet in service to the game? isreal was lacking before, got rafale. no absolute dying need of it right now in that tree
Cut it off already. Vehicles are not being added only when they are absolutely needed, but also when there is an option to just make a C&P one with different camo so other TT players will have something to grind and buy premiums.
with an aircraft that doesn’t exist? the thing is, the copy and paste was ALREADY made, i don’t see any reason to grind france air because isreal just has it with a better f4 phantom that france doesn’t have, that’s a lot of premiums in isreal bought. not only are you adding an additional fighter, but a fighter that’s in the future. i wouldn’t be complaining if it was at least made before like the mirage 4000, but a complete future fighter.
then add even MORE eurofighters, turkey’s about to get second hand typhoons in a year and brand new in 2030. isreal has NOTHING unique above rank 7, you could add a seperate polish tree and it would have more unique vehicles. isreal doesn’t have anything unique to add in the future anyway, its more copy paste of f35, then add korea.
the implements to the isreal was added completely wrongly. you could’ve added f15ia without the rafale, it would still be an us alt account but not stronger than france since all france has for the future is just more rafales. or just stayed with the current rafale and not add an aircraft that doesnt exist. same with the f16aj.
f16aj is even worse. sure, at the time, japan lacked top tier and this could have been added, but it has like every fighter you could want in a single tree, remove it completely omg
This aircraft exist in case of EX. IA is just an Israeli version.
Your problem, noone cares.
So what do u think gaijin will do once they run out of jets to add at top tier? You wont believe, but boeing aint making a new plane every major update.
Holy larp jesus. Yeah cry about it, wont even read all of this
I have a dying need for the IA, as an F-15I enjoyer. Just cope, buddy. It’s coming to the game and it’s a good thing. No point even trying to debate about it not coming to the game. You think Gaijin is going to see your posts and be like ‘damn, we better cancel the addition of the IA’.
that doesn’t exist
i’m not complaining about us. f15ex exists, and its the next aircraft in line to be added before 5th gens. and us did need it, though not relevant.
i have multiple nations grinded, i’m not gonna cry over rafale being copy pasted, that just shows how ridicilous it is. you can grind france and get the rafale, or, you could grind isreal and get the rafale WITH the f15.
did we run out of top tier? that has its time. next gen missiles and 5th gens, which on their own will for sure get gaijin going for a while. early models, late models, and then actually making the game realistic such as giving chaff real speed instead of it being dispensed at 0kmh.
only then are you going towards future fighters, if you’re going there at all since there’s much more that can be added to the game than just new vehicles. if future fighters were to be added, then france would have rafale f4, and after that, rafale f5, solving the isreal rafale problem.
you don’t have any counter against it
no, its ranting. people ranted for much worse lol. but actual, fair rants like how the eurofighter doesn’t have its irl flight model, underperforming like crazy get ignored because all wt players do is just rant and not enjoy the game.
ex exists and its realistic.
Unless the bypass ratio is increased to above 0.5, it will be difficult for the maximum thrust to reach 18 tons. I think it should be 16-17 tons.
