F-15E using F100-PW-220s for "Balance" while F-15I has 229s at the same BR

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Yes, so at the baseline it’s already tied with the previous best BVR fighter in the game lol. I’d just be in trouble if I get to the end of the game and I’m in a 1v1 with an I and we’re both out of all of our 120s and he’s better than me. In which case there’s already things like the J10 that would wreck me anyways.

Edit 2: Not going to continue arguing about why the second best plane in the game (before it got its 229s) is good in air RB, as it’s already irrelevant and honestly I cannot fathom how people were worried they couldn’t perform in it as it was. My initial point was, I put priority on air to ground weapons on my strike aircrafts, which to me does not seem like a hot take.

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I’d say the E and I are gonna be a good bit better than the F-15C at all but dogfighting, they have a much better climbrate and speed than the C, and climbrate/speed are massive in air rb

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Yes because this is the only time US has been dominating. Give me a brake. There has been times when some nation has been dominating, but mainly it has been US and USSR. Germany maybe when they got CL-13 but that was like what 7-8 years ago?

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It will basically come down to pilot skill in a dogfight with an F-15E/I vs an F-15C, one turns better and one holds energy better/ has a better ttw

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It has basically gone back and forth between the US and russia dominating, there really isn’t a debate there. I already knew that if aim 120s were implemented correctly then they would dominate top tier, which they are doing currently. Until a better platform is added for other nations, which will most likely be the eurofighter, the F-15s are gonna be the best in the game for bvr

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But F-15s and F-16s are still being upgraded to this day, so they’re always gonna be some of the best vehicles in the game, the F-15EX along with the later block F-16Cs, the block 70+ iirc

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USA doesnt use them.
Their Block50 prob will be better, just due of lighter airframe.
Block 60 might be interesting, but used only by UAE

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considering the USAF literally funded the production of Block 70 F-16 for partner nations, the block 70 being made by an american company in the USA designed with US avionics and with US software and computer systems, i think it would be reasonable for the US to get at least one block 70/72 f16 from like turkey or something.

OR, (and i like this one more), we get one of the USAF F-16C Blk 50 upgraded to block 70 standard

for the UAE one, there is currently no ties to any specific tree nor is there a significant playerbase who really cares where UAE stuff goes so the block 60 is an option for future events

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The 15E is massively better than the 15I in ground RB though, saying it won’t is just coping.

The 15E can carry F&F weaponry together with A2A missiles on the wings, unlike the 15I. And yes mavs are easy to shoot down, but so are paveways.

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They shouldve just given both F-15E and I the 220 engines to make people play them for cas and not air superiority

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It’s not massively they just get 6 mavericks and a good pansies player can shoot them all down and 60% of the time mavericks miss anyway

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I don’t think anyone who wanted the F-15E to receive the 229 engines would be against the F-15I receiving stand-off munitions, only spiteful minor nation players are like that

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Just like they will shoot down the majority of paveways.

Oh don’t get me wrong, I know. Most people here wanted both 15E and 15I fixed.

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I have never once seen someone shoot down a paveway

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They show up on the pantsir TWS style radar and in one of the last major updates they made bombs easier to destroy when using SAMs.

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I’ll have to test that out with my friend, I’ve basically never been able to see or shoot down a gbu

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Oh trust me the amount of times I’ve had my gbus and JDAMs shot down by pansies and ito 90s is more than 100

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It only changed recently, I’d have to look through the patchnotes when I get home from work later.

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This must be that Russian bias I’ve been hearing about 🤔

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So the 15I can now get some of the ordinance its famous for? SPICE 2000, 1000, Popeyes… What can a top tier jet do with 2 GBU15s? GNSS bombs are less useful in GRB than IR/TV munitions.

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