Yep, just a shame minor nations dont get the same treatment.
Bit late to the change, but this is fantastic, but now the 15I needs it’s A2G ord and everything will be good.
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Yep, I was going to have a great time in the F-15E regardless of the engines and was looking forward to it with 220s. To me, the I’s lack of fire and forget weaponry is 100 times more concerning than the thrust difference on the E was before.
Absolutely insane take comparing a lack of mavericks to having 25% less thrust
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Watch a comparison of the speed and acceleration of the F-15E compared to the I and tell me if it isn’t that concerning
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Think about this:
The F-15E has the capability of bringing an entire CAS load out with a ton of GBUs, 6 Mavs, and 4 extra A2A missiles.
The F-15I can bring a ton of GBUs, and either two dumb bombs or useless GPS bombs and 4 extra A2A missiles or 2 extra GBUs and 0 A2A missiles.
Do you see the issue?
It has the exact same loadout aside from the mavericks, yes I’m aware of that. I do believe Israel should get it’s domestic spice bombs in place of the gbu 39s, or the popeye in place of the mavericks
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Alright, thanks for agreeing! Didn’t mean to sound harsh, sorry if I did.
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No you’re all good lol, I’ve always been for Israel getting some kind of fire and forget weapon, mainly domestic stuff so that it differs from the F-15E at least a little
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But if the F-15E didn’t end up getting the 229s then the F-15I would have completely dominated air rb, and sure the E would be a bit better in ground rb because of the mavs, but I’d never say that was even close to a fair tradeoff, 25% more thrust is an insane amount of difference
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Do I get this right? It is fine for F-15E and F-15C dominate, but not F-15I?
Also I like that people cry about not getting best version of plane and want to say “**** the balance, I don’t care if other nations suffer I just want best plane for me”
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The F-15I is still better than the E for air to air since it has more cm, why are you acting like the F-15I is suddenly garbage because the E got the engines it deserved from the start?
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I still have not see any good argument why F-15E needed those better engines. Almost all arguments have been ohh but IRL it did mount them so it needs to have those and not other ones that it also mounted.
Also I never said F-15I was garbage , Im just saying that US mains ignore that other nations exist and saw that somebody was getting better plane and that can’t be allowed to happen.
There has been multiple arguments for why the E deserves them, either you’re pretending to not see them or you haven’t been reading the forums whatsoever. I’ll give you 3 reasons right now. The devs during the dev stream said themselves, “we don’t want the F-15E to outshine the F-15C so we’re not going to give it the more powerful engines” which makes absolutely no sense since the Israeli tree also has an F-15C but the F-15I received the stronger engines. Another reason is that irl the 229 engine entered service with the F-15E in 1992, 6 years before the plane was ever even exported to Israel. And third, the F-15E and I both have modifications from well into the 2000s, such as the Gbu-39 and the Hmd, so why does the F-15I get the more modern engine yet the F-15E is stuck with an engine from the late 80s?
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Because US doesn’t need one more plane that “outshines” all the other nations planes?
Again why is this just about F-15E and F-15I? I know I have not played top tier long time, but I still think other then Israel and US exist .
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Also, the F-15E is an american plane, and nothing annoys me more in this game than when gaijin gives a better version of a vehicle to an export nation and not the original nation, this has happened multiple times mainly with the US tree, and this was probably the most ridiculous example yet, a 25% thrust increase is not a minor difference at all
So are we gonna pretend that russia and china weren’t completely dominating the entire air rb mode when there was no counter to the R-27ER? Now that the usa has an advantage it’s a problem?
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The “counter” to the Su-27 which had 6 R-27s and 4 r-73s, was an F-15A with 4 9ms and 4 7ms, do you think that was fair?
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I plan on treating it as a strike aircraft, so I don’t really care lol. If I play so poorly in air rb that I ever need that thrust in the first place, I would step back and re-evaluate how I play the game. These planes carry a massive amount of the best ARH missile in the game and have a new radar.
Well it’s a multirole aircraft so ofc it’ll be good at doing multirole, also the radar that the E and I received are basically a copy paste of the F-15C radar but with some ground modes added
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