If that was a 120 he would have outran it just as easily
How would I know how fast he was going? We were at around 3-4k alt and he was going way faster than any plane at that alt usually goes
your radar can tell closing speed
and you can see your own on game HUD
So he was pulling away from you when you launched. Cool so he already has an advantage. Would he had out ran an AIM-120 idk but you already have told me enough to know that you were throwing a missile in unfavorable conditions.
It was like 2 days ago I didn’t remember the speed clearly, like I just said he was going extremely fast for being at such a low alt
No other plane would have outran that, that’s the point I’m trying to make
He didn’t chaff or anything, didn’t even turn, just flew in a straight line and outran the missile no problem
Without seeing what happened it is hard to say. But yeah i think other mach 2 jets could out run an R-77 being launched 4 or more kms away.
I’m saying no other jet would have been that fast at that alt, the main point is that the engines are insanely good compared to the F-15E that’s literally what this thread is for
While I agree the F-15E should get 229s. An F-15I out running an R-77 is not an argument for it to receive them.
Going probably mach 1.8+ at 3km high is a pretty good argument for how much they’re gimping the F-15E
Just cause 1 jet can go fast isn’t reason for another.
Have you paid any attention to the 3 threads where everyone is talking about this issue?
Because it sure seems like you haven’t
I have but you seem to be confused as to where the point stands.
This isn’t about a jet being able to out preform a missile. It is about 2 jets that are to be put in for the same role being different when they should be the same.
If anything your comment goes into Gaijins favor that it would make the C irrelevant.
I don’t think you’re understanding this at all, I’m making the point that the F-15I is easily outrunning fox 3s at the highest br, meanwhile the F-15E is only a slower F-15C. Gaijin said themselves that they didn’t want the F-15E to outperform the C so they nerfed it’s engines, but the F-15I is in the game outrunning missiles with 0 effort. It has more speed and acceleration than the F-15C Baz Meshupar and it has the same loadout for air to air, then people come into the thread and act like the engine difference isn’t a big deal “oh just because it can outrun missiles doesn’t mean they should give the engine to the F-15E”
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My point is other jets can out run fox 3s too. Especially launched in unfavorable conditions if i go on and out run an F3 in the F-15E as is does that mean the engines are fine? No. We need to point to stats.
Your comment is useless cause the same people who say the engine performance isn’t a big deal won’t want the 15E to out race F3s.
Dude I said this like 3 times, the plane was going probably nearing mach 2 at 3k meters, no other plane is even close to that speed at top tier, not a single one. There’s been videos done about the comparisons between the F-15E and the F-15I, the difference is absolutely massive
You also said you don’t remeber the speed so that is all conjecture isn’t it?
I don’t remember the exact speed yes, but I made an estimate of around mach 1.8 earlier