Yea that was one of our main arguments, adding 2006+ weapons and 1980s era engines, it was ridiculous
In game they have around 300kgf more than the 101
100%. Was even confirmed above by Smin a minute ago.
The only other difference is we have the Mk13 bombs which take 5 for a base kill vs the Mk83 of the others which takes 6.
But the GR1 is at 11.7 vs the 11.3 of the A200 (italy) and MFG/WTD61 (Germany) despite all the Tornado IDS being identical in Air modes, which is just insane
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That’s about the same as my source puts it.
Going by wiki/ingame I dont think its quite that much I dont think, but it feels like quite a bit
This is incorrect. The reasoning was as the GR.4 was always planned to come for the British. So the GR.1 would have the 101s and the GR.4 with the 103.
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Except the GR1 and GR4 have a full BR difference.
GR4s existance should have no baring on the GR1s performance, especially as its 11.7 and not 11.3 like the WTD61/A200/MFG.
Its a nerf ontop of a nerf for the sake of it without reasonable justification.
Besides, why doesnt the ASSTA1/MFG/WTD61 have Mk101 engines because they can get the ASSTA3 or the A200/A200A have Mk101s because they can get the A200C. Unless you are saying those late Tornados for Italy and Germany arent coming
Well if the gr4 is getting the engines that’s good, I don’t use any tornados except for the German event one so I can’t speak from personal experience of using both engines
GR4 feels insanely fast compared to the GR1, just a shame its over BRed
I do think it’s unfortunate how badly they implemented the brimstones, I was expecting them to just add a tv/ins type of guidance like the kh38 has, but only being laser guided is crazy for a weapon like that
I don’t even play the uk currently but I feel bad for you guys and hope you do get some changes done for the tornados mainly
The others are specific versions or variants indicated by specific dates or features. For example the ASSTA 1.0 and 1995 only had 103s. GR.1 is not a specific timed variant and Tornado GR.4 was always planned to come to provide a British variant with Mk 103 engines.
Yep, In GRB the GR4 is going to be niche and rarely used.
in ASB its 12.7 and will be facing Mig-29s and F-16s every match
in ARB its 12.3 and gunna be facing AMRAAMs and R-77s every match.
Going to be hard work to use in any gamemode without any of the tools that would have actually helped it. Should have some nice QoL upgrades like the FLIR and HMS but other that, its a side grade over the Gr1
So does this mean the GR1 can get its Historically accurate BOL and Martels as its not a specific version?
Let alone other buffs like TIALD being modeled correctly
It does not. Weaponry is always subject to balance and the devs discretion.
Now if you would please take the discussion to a more appropriate topic, your questions have been answered several times here. But this discussion is now very far from the subject matter. This topic is not a Tornado one. There are plenty for that.
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I am already planning a dev thread post for the GR1 to get Mk103 engines. Just eating my dinner first.
Double standards.Where is the AL-31F-1M on the Su-27SM?
Where is the elevated temperature regime for the MiG-29?
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Will the 229s also mean more ordnance options for the 15I?
Ordinance options are not connected to the engines.
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Didn’t bvvd say that they didn’t want the american f15e to be the best at ground and air at the same time? Wouldn’t ordinance have everything to do with this case? Because both F-15Es are the same asside the ordinance