F-15C MSIP II should be able to carry the AIM-120B

And again? Why does the US need a superior aircraft to everyone else?

You are advocating for no small buffs (I think, honestly I have no idea what you want other than “buff the US” ) at the moment for one of the top aircraft in-game on the basis that the best performing aircraft in game is more modern.

No variant of the F-15 or upgrade for the F-15C/E will allow it to beat a Typhoon, Rafale or even a Gripen in a gunfight. Its battlefield is BVR. In BVR it is the joint best in the game, maybe even the best when multiple factors are considered like the fact it carries 8x Aim-120C5s and the next best, the Typhoon, only carries 6.

So yes, it may get a better radar, but this largely wont do much for it. It could get BOL, but again, this wont change much for it. If it got better missiles, so would everyone else and the Aim-9X isnt actually all that strong, in fact its weaker than ALL the European equivalents.

So what exactly do you want them to do?

Add the F-15EX with Aim-9X and Aim-120Ds but leave everyone else with what they have right now because the US has a low win rate?

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Actually, I’m advocating for HISTORICAL PARITY. You are comparing a fully modern French jet to a legacy US jet.

AND THERE IS THE TRAP, this is not a DOG FIGHT anymore, this is BVR, don’t shift the GLOBAL post to WVR when the whole point of the post is the issue with the overall historical parity.

That has ALREADY HAPPENED, France has the MICA EM (RF) which is better than the 120C in ECM resistance and range. I am asking equal timeline here not break balance.

Let the f15 C MSIP II be updated to its final variant over its legacy or at least let it have the 120B.
Update the US radars to its latest form of the jet over its legacy form, not asking the f15Ex here, we can if we want because that is your nuance of balance with the Rafale. The f15EX can come once the legacy US jets are modeled correctly and when other nations actually get something capable of keeping up. only the rafale CF3 can at the moment.

Right? And?

That would mean buffing the F-15E up a LOT by giving it more modern equipment and tech right?

Okay? then whats the problem? F-15E is either the best or joint best BVR jet in game right now. Rafale is very strong at short range, and does okay at medium range, but will never beat an F-15E at long range.

It has a better notch gate, which does make it harder to notch, but range? No. Aim-120A/B outrange the MICA EM quite a bit and the C5 dwarfs it. MICA EM is also entered service in 1996. Same year the Aim-120C entered service. So… in terms of “historical parity” the US is on par with France in this regard.

You can bug report the B if you want, But I think its been denied as the A is identical and there is no plans to change the B.

Then we can upgrade the radars in other nations top tier as well. Like giivng the Typhoon CAPTOR-E, Adding the Gripen E with AESA too, etc etc.

The F-15 wouldnt gain any advantage in this regard and would perform equally.

Again, and what does 2 nations have that even really fight the F-15C MSIP II, let alone the F-15E.

The priority should be making sure every nation is on par with the top 3 jets in game right now. The F-15E/I, The Typhoon and The Rafale.

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US has always had lower winrate, hell most of the major nations usually have low winrates if they weren’t actively FOTM, regardless if the Rafale is dominant or not (which it is).

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You are honestly a jester are you not, you dont see that the US has many upgrades done to the same aircraft right, my final word is this.

Then you should not be against it being added, and its historical, there is zero justification to deny the f15 its real tech stack.

yes it is and its a great fighter but right now she is great because she has no competition.

So, you give the F-15E a modern AESA radar?

it still loose the to the Rafale in WVR and would start loosing to the Typhoon in BVR because its now got the CAPTOR-E.

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there is no WVR when someone is good at BVR my friend, we will see when it comes to that, if an f15E or C MSIP II pilot comes to WVR then that is a horrible pilot. Right now the f15 has its BVR held back beyond its capabilities due to its tech limited to legacy instead of what she flew specially the MSIP II.

Seeing how clunky all mechanical radars have become I wouldn’t mind seeing like 2 back to back updates giving PESA/AESA radars to as many nations as possible a 14.0 plane with these types of radar.

  • AESA EFT for Italy, Germany and Britain
  • JAS 39E for Sweden (and sub trees if one uses it).
  • J-10 and/or J-11/15/16 (not to well versed on chinese planes)
  • F-15I with AESA for Israel
  • F-15C/E with AESA and/or (I hate naming this plane) the F/A-18E for the US.
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Yeah, probably is needed. I’m guessing F18E will be the US’s end of year addition personally, but Sweden (potentially by extension Japan) and China need 14.0s/new 14.0s long before then

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Good thing about the 18E is that it’ll be incredibly mid so it’s easy to add without it overshadowing the stars of the update.

And I’m not just saying this because I love slandering the Hornet, it loses quite a bit in flight performance for that better radar and 2 extra missiles.

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only mica is allowed to have an upgraded seeker

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Don’t forget F-16E, F-16V, and F-16C b50 POBIT. They could go for advanced eagles too if they are gonna add AESA to all the 4.5’s

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Which is why I wonder if it will be paired with Gen 5 IRs. But the US cope posts about 9X not being the best is going to be awesome

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There won’t be, as the differences between A and B are of zero consequence in game.

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why would anyone except it be the best

I just don’t understand why you want 120b so badly, they’re the EXACT SAME MISSILE in game

That’s the thing, their should be a difference as there is in real life and its not an excuse.

Because “Merica!!!”

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In manufacturing ease? They have no performance differences what are you talking about.

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