Yeah… Im just hoping for GPS only spear-3s to give us a GBU-39 esk weapon, but apparently it can only be added after the F-15E has gotten GBU-53 according to the US mains
Why is the f15C at 12.7 with no atgms in ground rb? It just gets more and more unappealing.
Yes if russia can do it why can’t america, they dont completely screw the mig 29smt
I am stating a fact and gaijin obviously refuses to fix it.
i have the 120A and a worse airframe than the eurofighter, slower than the f15E almost no ground pounding capabilities. Is it that much to ask that gaijin does not completely fuck over the jet i literally got a few days ago
First of all, the MiG 29 gets fewer missiles, while America can spam 8 AIM 120s. Because that’s completely fair, while the Grippen only gets 4 AIM 120s and pitiful Air-to-Ground Munitions and has to stay at 13.7 because… why not? Your arguments are weak and just because you main that country does not mean we should appease you and say your under BR’d jet needs to go lower just because YOU personally want to use and abuse the meta.
2 less missiles? Thats pretty op if you ask me at 13.3 fighting F-20As. And I grinded for weeks to get a good jet. I knew it wouldnt be the best when only the 120A / 120B existed and that it would be a fair competitor. Why should the grippen, f15c, f16c and everything else that got shafted by this update either get downtiered or just get the damn aim 120C’s. From what I have seen thats what everyone wants, but we just need to see if gaijin listens for once. So now that I really wanna have a good top tier contender I have to grind for another week to unlock the f15e even though the f15c LITERALLY had the 120C irl.
AIM 120s are far superior to R-77s, mate. So yeah, a max of 6 R-77s isn’t as far fetched as 8 AIM 120s. Plus, AIM 9Ms are far better than R-73s. The only thing going for R-73s is their ability to thrust vector. They still get flared off by a single flare, while AIM 9Ms will chase you to the ends of the Earth.
You think the propellors would give the radars enough to get a solid lock on?
Heh, I’m not sure if the biplanes and reserve props are even fast enough to appear on the PD radar
Well it would be the same thing that makes helis really easy to spot on radar irl, the blades would be moving very fast
no matter how you cut it, that battle rating is extremely op. at 13.7 you almost NEVER get full downtiers. The mig 29 is just objectively better in my opinion. I say throw it up to 13.7 and give it the r77-1. if you want fairness everyone should be shafted.
And the Su-24 remains the worst swing wing aircraft.
AIM-120s.
kh 29td on the mig 29smt at 12.3
Oh wow, AGM-65B equivalent missiles at 12.3! Amazing!
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You have zero idea what you’re talking about.
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Wow, like two-to-four terrible AGMs at 12.3!
Kh 29 is good. The launch platform? Not remotely. Unlike yank platforms, there’s no help in the form of a targeting pod.
SMT also only carries 2 of them (as opposed to the half dozen AGMs on other platforms in other trees)
Because of AIM-120 capability. look at Finnish F-18C, which is finnished.
I never knew that War Thunder only has two nations, America and Russia.
I am tired of these illogical whining of those two ffs.
“USA HAS IT, SO WHY NOT TO US?”
“SOVIET HAS IT, SO WHY NOT TO US?”
:/
And buffing F-15C down to 13.3 will ruin things even worse.
IN GAME, AIM-120A AND AIM-120B ARE THE SAME MISSILE.
That is why F-15C is 13.7 while EFT is 14.0
if EFT fails to get AIM-120C.
Laugh
Oh, I never knew that 9000lbs of bomb capablity were ALMOST NO GROUND POUNDING CAPABILITY.
If you really think MiG-29SMT is OP at 13.3 because you were struggleing to fight against it with your F-20A
I can tell sending F-15C at 13.3 is braindead idea because I will have 0 chance to fight against F-15C which spams 8 AIM-120 to my MiG-21Bison.
Is it that much to ask that you don’t completely f- over the whole BR radius just for YOUR jet which you literally got a few days ago?
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Holy s… some people really can’t look past their own nose, aren’t they? Every single time new update is a bout to drop there is just enormous influx of “questionable” balance calls from community.
R77 in 12.3 is kinda wild you didnt answer the question, it was being compared to the smt.
sounds like cope bro those are the main nations along with germany as a close third, u dont fuck over your biggest nation.
I mean wont that do more good in the long run, just more riots to get them to actually fix their fucking game.
well bro everyone acts so smart here i was just correcting his error, i get the aim 120A not the B
EFT has a better radar and can turn way way better, not to mention it has the AIM120B
Bombing what? You cant get close with russian pansirs or its guaranteed death
I also mentioned the f16c, not just my jet i think that the typhoon should get it as well as everything else really. learn to read a room, i dont want my jet only to be the meta im not a complete fiend (hey if it happens it happens tho).
There is no debating you, you are so short sighted that it is absolutely hilarious.
I don’t think it is not that much wild as long as we can see some 12.0BR AIM-120 slingers in GRB.
(I might be wrong at this point as long as I am not a big fan of GRB)
And according to the title and first post in this topic, you were talking about air.
Bringing ground to defend your flaw sounds a bit cowardly.
So, other eights should shut up and don’t fuck over with USA because the USA and USSR are the biggest nations which has the biggest player count?
stop coping man.
Diabolical take.
Two wrongs don’t make one right.
I mean their difference is not exist in this game, so on arguing’s sake, IT WILL GIVE NO DIFFERENCE if we calls F-15C’s AIM-120A as AIM-120B.
Radar which is broken and EFT enjoyers are complaining for months.
Agrees that it might turn way better
And AIM120A/B arguing is meaningless as long as it acts same in this game.
You claimed that F-15C don’t have ANY of ground pounding capablity.
F-15C might not having fancy top-notch level of guided munitions, but still, their payload capablity is no close to [no ground pounding capablity]
When there are ‘real’ [can’t pound ground] planes exist.
You still can destroy 4.5 bases with your napalms in ARB FFS.
So, according to your theories which you showed in this topic,
You think F-16C also need to go down to 13.3 if they also can’t get AIM-120C?
Okaaay?
Then you need to chill down and have a longer sight for a moment.
No offence but Your recent replys makes you looks like fiend obviously.