F-15C MSIP Eagle II should be at 13.3

So hear me out, we get the aim 120A on the F15-C and we are placed at a battle rating of 13.7. And this really wouldn’t be that big of a deal with only the aim 120B existing. But with the aim 120C-5 coming out soon it will severely under power the F-15C. Being my favorite jet its really disappointing how it will be nearly obsolete in this coming update and I hope it can be thrown down to 13.3 where the MIG-29SMT is at with similar specs.

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It should already be 14.0 alongside the F-15E, Typhoon, Rafale, Su-30, etc.

Aim-120A and Aim-120B are 100% identical.

F-15C is litereally the strongest 13.7 in game. It is probably going to be the only 13.7 that isnt going to struggle against the F-15E with Aim-120C5s. What really should happen is the F-15E should move to 14.3

Mig-29SMT has 2x R-77, F-15C has 8x AMRAAM… This is is not similar specs

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wrong.
F-15J(M) is better.

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Marginally

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still better.
and not really marginally

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100% agree with you, I wish that it was at 14.0 with the new 120C at launch so bad.

Damn then in this current update it is a completely fair br, probably op I thought that the B would have some sort of advantage not on the stat screen.

I agree, but the only issue is when the br is around .7 above I have noticed you find those jets in every match, even slight downtiers and it would be mad annoying knowing that you have an insuperior jet every single match. Kinda like the f-4s, you fight f-18C every game unless it is a full downtier.

Got a point there I was tripping, the 2 missiles on it would be annoying af.

Its literally the exact same jet except it gets better 9Ms because AAM-4s ingame are just a sidegrade to AIM-120A/B

Thats crazy why must the F15-C get cooked like this

AAM-3 is better than 9M, also it is noticably lighter.
AAM-4 are better than AMRAAM for HOBS shots, already makes senes to take 2 of them for example.

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arent the 120A and 120B the same tho?

the difference in weight between AAM-3 and 9M is offset by the difference in weight between AAM-4 and AMRAAM.

Thats what @Morvran said, the only issue is with the 120C being released in the leviathan update and the F15E and F18 getting them

about weight - thats about aircraft overall, not missile itself. shouldve wrote that on next line tbh

The F18 would be fine getting them. It’s platforms that are already among the best getting kit leaps and bounds ahead of the rest that’s the problem.

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SMT can carry 6x R77s

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i can understand giving the F18 the 120C but i dont agree with giving the F15E the 120C for balancing reasons

My bad, though you probably wont. R-73 are probably the more valuable weapon

edit: wrong reply, was for the one above

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On what planet is the F15C similarly speced to the Mig 29 SMT? SMT has worse agility, worse payload, significantly fewer countermeasures. It is an act of divine intervention if you even approach comparable speed to an F15C with SMT.

Yeah, you definitely aren’t running 6 R77s unless you’re in a downtier. And even in the place of the 77s, half the time you’re better of with 2 R27ETs and ignoring the 77s entirely.

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15E could be jsut because of stats

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yeah i never run 6 R77s on the SMT always bring atleast 2x R73s, the ability to hit trickshots with the R73s are something that are always needed in fights

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