And the Su-24 remains the worst swing wing aircraft.
AIM-120s.
kh 29td on the mig 29smt at 12.3
Oh wow, AGM-65B equivalent missiles at 12.3! Amazing!
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You have zero idea what you’re talking about.
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Wow, like two-to-four terrible AGMs at 12.3!
Kh 29 is good. The launch platform? Not remotely. Unlike yank platforms, there’s no help in the form of a targeting pod.
SMT also only carries 2 of them (as opposed to the half dozen AGMs on other platforms in other trees)
Because of AIM-120 capability. look at Finnish F-18C, which is finnished.
I never knew that War Thunder only has two nations, America and Russia.
I am tired of these illogical whining of those two ffs.
“USA HAS IT, SO WHY NOT TO US?”
“SOVIET HAS IT, SO WHY NOT TO US?”
:/
And buffing F-15C down to 13.3 will ruin things even worse.
IN GAME, AIM-120A AND AIM-120B ARE THE SAME MISSILE.
That is why F-15C is 13.7 while EFT is 14.0
if EFT fails to get AIM-120C.
Laugh
Oh, I never knew that 9000lbs of bomb capablity were ALMOST NO GROUND POUNDING CAPABILITY.
If you really think MiG-29SMT is OP at 13.3 because you were struggleing to fight against it with your F-20A
I can tell sending F-15C at 13.3 is braindead idea because I will have 0 chance to fight against F-15C which spams 8 AIM-120 to my MiG-21Bison.
Is it that much to ask that you don’t completely f- over the whole BR radius just for YOUR jet which you literally got a few days ago?
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Holy s… some people really can’t look past their own nose, aren’t they? Every single time new update is a bout to drop there is just enormous influx of “questionable” balance calls from community.
R77 in 12.3 is kinda wild you didnt answer the question, it was being compared to the smt.
sounds like cope bro those are the main nations along with germany as a close third, u dont fuck over your biggest nation.
I mean wont that do more good in the long run, just more riots to get them to actually fix their fucking game.
well bro everyone acts so smart here i was just correcting his error, i get the aim 120A not the B
EFT has a better radar and can turn way way better, not to mention it has the AIM120B
Bombing what? You cant get close with russian pansirs or its guaranteed death
I also mentioned the f16c, not just my jet i think that the typhoon should get it as well as everything else really. learn to read a room, i dont want my jet only to be the meta im not a complete fiend (hey if it happens it happens tho).
There is no debating you, you are so short sighted that it is absolutely hilarious.
I don’t think it is not that much wild as long as we can see some 12.0BR AIM-120 slingers in GRB.
(I might be wrong at this point as long as I am not a big fan of GRB)
And according to the title and first post in this topic, you were talking about air.
Bringing ground to defend your flaw sounds a bit cowardly.
So, other eights should shut up and don’t fuck over with USA because the USA and USSR are the biggest nations which has the biggest player count?
stop coping man.
Diabolical take.
Two wrongs don’t make one right.
I mean their difference is not exist in this game, so on arguing’s sake, IT WILL GIVE NO DIFFERENCE if we calls F-15C’s AIM-120A as AIM-120B.
Radar which is broken and EFT enjoyers are complaining for months.
Agrees that it might turn way better
And AIM120A/B arguing is meaningless as long as it acts same in this game.
You claimed that F-15C don’t have ANY of ground pounding capablity.
F-15C might not having fancy top-notch level of guided munitions, but still, their payload capablity is no close to [no ground pounding capablity]
When there are ‘real’ [can’t pound ground] planes exist.
You still can destroy 4.5 bases with your napalms in ARB FFS.
So, according to your theories which you showed in this topic,
You think F-16C also need to go down to 13.3 if they also can’t get AIM-120C?
Okaaay?
Then you need to chill down and have a longer sight for a moment.
No offence but Your recent replys makes you looks like fiend obviously.
I brought ground into it to prove a point, the f15c will be completely obsolete soon in groundpounding / bvr combat.
Do you know how to read my last comment? When did I explicitly say “only the f15c and f16c should have the aim 120C” please elaborate and quote it.
It was complete truth, gaijin dont take action till the playerbase gets pissed pissed.
But I mean insulting someones intelligence then making an error that is so simple, why would i not call that out?
then gaijin should fix it, relatively good jet though they are very very competitive.
You said earlier that you do not play much grb, try using bombs in top tier see how it goes. and bombing bases at top tier? really
yes that is the only fair thing to do, they both had them and are the best in their line. the best in a line should not be cooked.
must admit I am quite quite pissed about this whole situation because i really really have been liking war thunder recently, a punch in the face to get the thing you grinded for weeks. as a matter of a fact years since i have been going down this line and have gaijin completely forget about it.
Conclusion is that you are an idiot who cannot read.
Its okay to be wrong, don’t just go hurling around insults. The F15C being “irrelevant” now that the E and I get the C5 is an insane overreaction, it will still be very much relevant since unlike the Fin Hornet it isn’t at literally the same BR with worse capabilities, it rightfully is at 13.7 and it should stay there unless BRs get decompressed and then it should move up. You are literally just Doom posting and insulting people who are being reasonable just because you can’t cope with the fact that the F15E is the 14.0 and not the C.
If it weren’t, F-15C would’ve become 14.0 long ago.
You were the one who told me that don’t f- over USA, the biggest nation. :/
Sending F-15C to 13.3 can’t be a solution of anything.
Burn not my house to fright your mouse away.
Of course, I will get completely ripped like pulled pork. no need to try for it.
Even though base bombing is awful in general, and F-15C don’t have any of the top-level of precision munitions which can be used against Pantsir.
At least, having bombs as option is better than having none of them because
- More modifications in the menu, then fewer RP needed for each single block.
- Giving the option to escape stock faster.
Finnish F-18C can be the easiest example for you. They need to waste 9k extra RP for AIM-120B.
And, dogfight in Tornado F.3 Late against F-15C while welding only two AIM-9L before stock improvement were nothing more than dogshit experience. intended P2W microtransaction moments.
Again, 9000 lbs of bomb capability, thanks to a powerful engine, is pretty good compared to others.
It is way beyond of [zero ground pounding capablity]
No?
If you really think those F-15C and F-16C need to get AIM-120C or gets BR buff down.
I can’t wait to have Tornado F.3 Late becomes 12.7BR because It also failed to have historical AIM-120C too. :/
I get what you mean but your sight is short-sighted as hell.
Thank you.
After the new update, F-15C might not good as now, but claiming that it should be 13.3BR is new level of coping. really.
You don’t need to doompost now and watch till the dev server goes down.
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Yeah and there is a reason why most sane people don’t take your opinion seriously
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Sounds perfectly fair and balanced to me (/s).
Nah but on a serious note, I wouldn’t mind the Baz Meshupar moving to 13.3 if that nerf comes through to live, just like I think the finnish F-18C (base version) should be 13.7 after this update. The Baz M part might be a bit of a hot take, but I think with the handicapped radar it wouldn’t be that more powerful than some of the other 13.3 planes like the Su-34.
In light of recent events regarding the Baz Meshupar on the dev server, I can confidently say the only F-15C that has a chance of being 13.3 and balanced is the Meshupar (Losing TWS and HMD as its radar is being changed back to the 63PSP on dev server)
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I don’t know how many times this has been said but AIM-120B is the EXACT SAME as AIM-120A in game
Mig 29 Smt has 6 r-77?
I know, scroll down a little.
But I’ve never seen any run more than 2, if they run any at all