So you’re saying an f-15 with 8 amraams is worse than a gripen with 4 amraams and just as good as a jf-17 with 4 mraams, no hmd, slow and 72cms?
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Before amraam c was added it would’ve been fine at 14.0, 8 amraams versus 6 on typhoons and worse speed than f15e but better manoeuvrability
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My brother in christ its one of the best 13.7s
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Bait used to be believable. do better.
First the F-15E should be 12.3 in Ground Realistic, and now F-15C should be 13.3 in Air Realistic.
How about this, since obviously America suffers soooooo much, how about every single American plane is unlocked at the start, fully spaded, and all are at 1.0 because the F-15E cannot survive four 7.5mm machine guns firing at the wing.
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They would probably lose against biplanes as they don’t know how to dogfight and their Sidewinders wouldn’t even lock onto the props.
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The F-15C could be 14.0 and be unaffected. Stop.
feel however you want, fact is that if you fly plane enough times, you know what you can and what you cant afford do against planes they can meet.
i dont need to fly 12.3 M2K to know i aint beating it in one circle with Phantom.
What is the point of this comment lol?
My comment was about 2 identical planes with very similar missiles being compared against each other.
I already spaded both the F-15C and F-15J M and I know for a fact that they fly very similar.
So? What’s that have to do with my comment?
Whole comment chain started with morvrans response about F-15C being strongest 13.7.
I assumed that your commetnt was showing disdain for people having opinion on planes they never flyed.
If thats not the case i just misunderstood.
HAHAHAHA!
Wait… you’re serious? HAHAHA!
F-15C MSIP II needs to be 14.0 as-is irrelevant of what other vehicles get.
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so a jet with insuperior missiles that faces eurofighters, rafales, f18c lates and f15e should be UPTIERED when it is about to be rendered obsolete with the aim 120c, makes sense
So, you think that F-15C is 13.3 material after F-15E gets AIM-120C
While
- EFT remains 14.0 without AIM-120C
- MiG-29SMT with inferior R-77 and fewer missiles is on 13.3
- F-4F ICE/Tornado F.3 Late/SHAR FA.2, which have infinitely worse fuselage and fewer total ARH Missile counts on 13.0.
Because nothing but you don’t want to get your favourite jet ruined?
YOU make no sense. Get a grip.
I never knew that 4 more AIM-120B and 4th-gen fuselage is [+0.3] material compared to F-4F ICE.
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compare the Sea Harrier FA 2 to the F-4F ICE lol
And those are arguably undertiered and probably could be 13.3. Them, along side the F-15A and flankers should all move up to 13.3 whenever gaijin decides to decompress 13.0.
Ehhh Yes. F-4F and Tonka are undertiered vehicle, and gap between them and SHAR is big
But I think the gap between [F-15C in new 13.3] and [current F-4F/Tonka] will be bigger than that. :|
Agreed.
That also makes ‘send F-15C to 13.3!’ idea nonsense even more. XD
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The F-15E is the same aircraft but heavier and worse in the turn, while being able to accelerate faster [F-4E vs F-104S].
The C5 is not the upgrade you think it is. It’s good for longer ranges, it’s good for shooting up at targets.
At closer ranges the AIM-120B is currently the same to slightly better.
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You’re right, the Grippens are 13.7 with only four AIM 120As, so the F-15C should be 13.7 obviously.
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Worst thing is that the F-15C isn’t even being made irrelevant. It’ll still be incredibly solid.
The Baz Meshupar however is being sent to the shadowrealm if the nerf goes live.
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As 200% joke with OP’s theory
Baz Meshupar should be solid 13.0BR jet with original Baz if F-15C is 13.3 material :P
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