There is not a single reason for the F-15C to be 14.0.
It is not, in any way, comparable or even competitive versus the current 14.0s.
Decompression is far more appropriate than trying to shove the plane into a category which it objectively does not belong.
It’s literally not even the best F-15C in-game.
Though this is categorically false.
Well, both because the MiG-29SMT is objectively a worse plane-- and because it is nowhere near obsolete.
The F-15C is extremely competitive within its BR, although a victim of powercreeping and compression. In a downtier, it slaughters the poor souls that are 12.7.
It’s still however extremely usable and capable of performing at a satisfactory level if played correctly.
Wrong account, but trust me the right account only makes it worse.
Not only that though. On the dev server Gaijin changed the Baz Meshupar radar back to the PSP version it had on release, which means no HMD, no TWS at all and thus only able to guide 1 amraam in at the time beyond 16km.
If there is any ARH F-15 that could deserve a decrease to 13.3, it would be th Baz Meshupar with the PSP radar.
Cross-checked with the squadron tag, and the last topic which was about F-4S
Seems this one is the real stat of OP.
STILL NO SIGN OF F-15C XD
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So you’re saying an f-15 with 8 amraams is worse than a gripen with 4 amraams and just as good as a jf-17 with 4 mraams, no hmd, slow and 72cms?
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Before amraam c was added it would’ve been fine at 14.0, 8 amraams versus 6 on typhoons and worse speed than f15e but better manoeuvrability
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My brother in christ its one of the best 13.7s
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Bait used to be believable. do better.
First the F-15E should be 12.3 in Ground Realistic, and now F-15C should be 13.3 in Air Realistic.
How about this, since obviously America suffers soooooo much, how about every single American plane is unlocked at the start, fully spaded, and all are at 1.0 because the F-15E cannot survive four 7.5mm machine guns firing at the wing.
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They would probably lose against biplanes as they don’t know how to dogfight and their Sidewinders wouldn’t even lock onto the props.
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The F-15C could be 14.0 and be unaffected. Stop.
feel however you want, fact is that if you fly plane enough times, you know what you can and what you cant afford do against planes they can meet.
i dont need to fly 12.3 M2K to know i aint beating it in one circle with Phantom.
What is the point of this comment lol?
My comment was about 2 identical planes with very similar missiles being compared against each other.
I already spaded both the F-15C and F-15J M and I know for a fact that they fly very similar.
So? What’s that have to do with my comment?
Whole comment chain started with morvrans response about F-15C being strongest 13.7.
I assumed that your commetnt was showing disdain for people having opinion on planes they never flyed.
If thats not the case i just misunderstood.
HAHAHAHA!
Wait… you’re serious? HAHAHA!
F-15C MSIP II needs to be 14.0 as-is irrelevant of what other vehicles get.
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so a jet with insuperior missiles that faces eurofighters, rafales, f18c lates and f15e should be UPTIERED when it is about to be rendered obsolete with the aim 120c, makes sense
So, you think that F-15C is 13.3 material after F-15E gets AIM-120C
While
- EFT remains 14.0 without AIM-120C
- MiG-29SMT with inferior R-77 and fewer missiles is on 13.3
- F-4F ICE/Tornado F.3 Late/SHAR FA.2, which have infinitely worse fuselage and fewer total ARH Missile counts on 13.0.
Because nothing but you don’t want to get your favourite jet ruined?
YOU make no sense. Get a grip.
I never knew that 4 more AIM-120B and 4th-gen fuselage is [+0.3] material compared to F-4F ICE.
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compare the Sea Harrier FA 2 to the F-4F ICE lol
And those are arguably undertiered and probably could be 13.3. Them, along side the F-15A and flankers should all move up to 13.3 whenever gaijin decides to decompress 13.0.