F-15C MSIP Eagle II should be at 13.3

The F18 would be fine getting them. It’s platforms that are already among the best getting kit leaps and bounds ahead of the rest that’s the problem.

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SMT can carry 6x R77s

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i can understand giving the F18 the 120C but i dont agree with giving the F15E the 120C for balancing reasons

My bad, though you probably wont. R-73 are probably the more valuable weapon

edit: wrong reply, was for the one above

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On what planet is the F15C similarly speced to the Mig 29 SMT? SMT has worse agility, worse payload, significantly fewer countermeasures. It is an act of divine intervention if you even approach comparable speed to an F15C with SMT.

Yeah, you definitely aren’t running 6 R77s unless you’re in a downtier. And even in the place of the 77s, half the time you’re better of with 2 R27ETs and ignoring the 77s entirely.

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15E could be jsut because of stats

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yeah i never run 6 R77s on the SMT always bring atleast 2x R73s, the ability to hit trickshots with the R73s are something that are always needed in fights

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Airframe itself is 600kg lighter than the other F-15Cs in game, gets a better missile set. What’s not to like?

if you want to be like that, the Baz Meshupar is severely overweight (the whole “Baz 2000” program was to put F-15i Ra"am avionics in an F-15A shell, yet it weighs the exact same as an F-15C MSIP). Don’t have sufficient evidence to get this modelled in game tho

No.

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The F-15C shouldn’t go down, the F-15E/I should go up instead.

Well i guess Gripen C should be 13.0 and 12.7 for south African one if F-15C need to go down to 13.3

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15.0 max br pls gaijin

average lvl28🥀🥀

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No, they should stay at where they are. The ones need to go is the plane that got Aim-120C

Lmao.

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So…uh i checked that guy’s stat and he didnt even played US just for one single battle. 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

How I feel about people who pass their opinion on planes they never played.
homelander-disappointed

F-15J is just marginally better compared to the F-15C. AAM-3 is slightly better than the AIM-9M where it can pull slightly more G and have small extra range. If someone silently swapped these 2, I won’t even feel the difference in my regular game play.

AAM-4 could pull more at closer distances but is very much comparable in G-Pull of AMRAAM at medium-long ranges (or less G-Pull by stat card values). AMRAAM still dominates in range. Basically it evens out.

Playing both of these planes feel very similar from player’s perspective.

There is not a single reason for the F-15C to be 14.0.
It is not, in any way, comparable or even competitive versus the current 14.0s.
Decompression is far more appropriate than trying to shove the plane into a category which it objectively does not belong.
It’s literally not even the best F-15C in-game.

Though this is categorically false.
Well, both because the MiG-29SMT is objectively a worse plane-- and because it is nowhere near obsolete.
The F-15C is extremely competitive within its BR, although a victim of powercreeping and compression. In a downtier, it slaughters the poor souls that are 12.7.
It’s still however extremely usable and capable of performing at a satisfactory level if played correctly.