F-15C MSIP Eagle II should be at 13.3

Dev Server "Leviathans" General Discussion - Dev Server
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100% agree with you, I wish that it was at 14.0 with the new 120C at launch so bad.

Damn then in this current update it is a completely fair br, probably op I thought that the B would have some sort of advantage not on the stat screen.

I agree, but the only issue is when the br is around .7 above I have noticed you find those jets in every match, even slight downtiers and it would be mad annoying knowing that you have an insuperior jet every single match. Kinda like the f-4s, you fight f-18C every game unless it is a full downtier.

Got a point there I was tripping, the 2 missiles on it would be annoying af.

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Its literally the exact same jet except it gets better 9Ms because AAM-4s ingame are just a sidegrade to AIM-120A/B

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Thats crazy why must the F15-C get cooked like this

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AAM-3 is better than 9M, also it is noticably lighter.
AAM-4 are better than AMRAAM for HOBS shots, already makes senes to take 2 of them for example.

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arent the 120A and 120B the same tho?

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the difference in weight between AAM-3 and 9M is offset by the difference in weight between AAM-4 and AMRAAM.

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Thats what @Morvran said, the only issue is with the 120C being released in the leviathan update and the F15E and F18 getting them

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about weight - thats about aircraft overall, not missile itself. shouldve wrote that on next line tbh

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The F18 would be fine getting them. It’s platforms that are already among the best getting kit leaps and bounds ahead of the rest that’s the problem.

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SMT can carry 6x R77s

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i can understand giving the F18 the 120C but i dont agree with giving the F15E the 120C for balancing reasons

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My bad, though you probably wont. R-73 are probably the more valuable weapon

edit: wrong reply, was for the one above

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On what planet is the F15C similarly speced to the Mig 29 SMT? SMT has worse agility, worse payload, significantly fewer countermeasures. It is an act of divine intervention if you even approach comparable speed to an F15C with SMT.

Yeah, you definitely aren’t running 6 R77s unless you’re in a downtier. And even in the place of the 77s, half the time you’re better of with 2 R27ETs and ignoring the 77s entirely.

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15E could be jsut because of stats

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yeah i never run 6 R77s on the SMT always bring atleast 2x R73s, the ability to hit trickshots with the R73s are something that are always needed in fights

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Airframe itself is 600kg lighter than the other F-15Cs in game, gets a better missile set. What’s not to like?

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if you want to be like that, the Baz Meshupar is severely overweight (the whole “Baz 2000” program was to put F-15i Ra"am avionics in an F-15A shell, yet it weighs the exact same as an F-15C MSIP). Don’t have sufficient evidence to get this modelled in game tho

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No.

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The F-15C shouldn’t go down, the F-15E/I should go up instead.

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Well i guess Gripen C should be 13.0 and 12.7 for south African one if F-15C need to go down to 13.3

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