Minimal difference when its on the F-15J(M) or the already-heavy F-2A.
F-15J(M) is the best F-15 besides E/I and the AAM-4 has near-identical range to the AIM-120A/B. F-2A is one of the best dogfighters and mid-range fighters, where the extra pull on the AAM-4 matters most. AAM-4 in game is practically identical to AIM-120 in some stats and better than it in other stats. The only reason why people use AIM-120s over AAM-4 in F-15J(M) is because you can only use 4 AAM-4s, but up to 8 AIM-120s.
they dont need to have gotten money for it
what we do know is that they obviously thought that they could mount it to their F15Cs, and if it required modifications they would have included that as a separate budget request
Well, you’re the one that said that the SU-30SM could use the dual racks, using some intake distance shenanigans as proof. Thats not evidence. Where’s the visual evicence? Regardless, you’re the one saying there’s no evidence that the F-15C GA can use the quad missile racks when there is photos of it using. Even if its a mockup or test, is more than the Su-30SM ever proved to use and should be enought evicence.
The paper mentioning it is literally a shopping wish list regarding ANG needs of different importance. MRML is critical importance in that list but so are Talon IRST and EPAWSS in that same list. And we know both Talon and EPAWSS are rare on Golden Eagle F-15Cs.
Just because the ANG wants something doesn’t mean Big Air Force or Congress will validate the request, especially with the F-15EX and F-35 siphoning money away and the F-15C on the way to retirement.
ehhh the F15C isnt bad at 13.7 , its rough because it keeps getting uptier to fight 14.3
F15E is only good at BVR, which is also rough. It turns like a brick and I heard people complain that F15 is underperforming in general but that’s only what I heard. I hope it gets buff tho.
As much as I want this to come to the game, the only picture posted here is NOT an operational F-15C Golden Eagle loadout. It’s just an eagle showcasing what the F-15C 2040C could be.
And even there the EFT outclasses it imo. The EFT is just as fast in speed/acceleration but it can go into a notch much quicker than the F-15E at those high speeds.
If thats it I digress. But I still think Alvis argument is bad.
Hang on, here, I posted a more comprehensive answer of what the F-15C Golden Eagle is VS F-15C 2040C. Cause yes, it’s a mega mess to separate the two with all the blogs and similar mixing the two together:
And another one here where you can see the cockpit difference between the two:
Yea the Ef2000 is like the top dog right now, alongside rafale. F15E got many FM nerfs over time lol, sad.
Opposite of what I argued.
What I did say is that because Su-35 is older, and Sukhoi operates in the 21st century, that aircraft newer than Su-35 will likely be using similar computer systems onboard.
That is a standard I started using in early 2023 for computer-age aircraft in general when I found out that F-16C still had AIM-7 support, and that wasn’t even made in the modern software & computer era.
Prior to me finding that out, my standards for information was strict. If you were conversing with me in 2022, I’d be looking for evidence of only F-15C GE and not considering the older MSIP II.
Also if something looks real, I’m going to think it’s real.
The only mockups I’ll ever know how to identify is the types like used on F-20.
Also @CyrusJackson 's posts paints more of a picture.
Edit:
You’ll note I never said Su-30MKI can use them, cause I don’t know if Su-35’s fire control system is based on [even loosely] on Su-30MKI’s.
and? it proves that it is a compatable system to the platform, which is gaijins standard for something to be added
and is laughably more evidence than there is for dual racks on su27 and su30, which is the closest comparison in game
The difference is Su-30SM and Su-27SM3 [the version we have in-game] are newer than Su-35.
Not arguing that Su-27SM3’s computer upgrade was to the same extent as Su-35/30SM’s, just that it’s newer. I personally have no belief that Su-27SM’s compatible computer wise at this time because I lack documentation.
F-15C Golden Eagle is the older one here, it’s the Su-30MKI [not in-game] to the Su-35 [F-15EX and the other images of MRML shown prior to my first post here].
we dont have the SM3 ingame
with a quick google search you would find out that the SM3 has 2 extra wing pylons
SM3:
normal SM:
to be fair SU27SM never had Double R77 racks IRL its only on there based on SU35 and yak141 had weapons that where not functional its a double standard gaijin likes to do
yak141 isnt a double standard becasue it is a prototype
by your logic every half finished prototype ingame is a double standard
and at that point it isnt
the dual pylons (r77) are real , used in real life ,its in service, unlike f15C with 4 missiles per pylon. even the F15EX does not use MMRl pylon on the inner pylons. (it only uses them on the outer pylon).
i mean even planes that historically had certain performances because gaijin doesnt believe that it would be fair even though its historically accurate look at duel plane on AIM-54C which do 25G irl restricted to 17G but ya know the copy paste historically inaccurate FAKOUR 90 gets 20G and a boosted motor while we still can get any bug reports through on duel plane cause russians cant use it
or hell the stinger 13 g pull but cant pull 20g cause they would be better than the igla
yeah but not on the SU27SM in game only the SU35 has dual pylons
probably because IRL 99% of the time its more practical to have a drop tank there
