R-27ER vs AIM-120C-5 and newer would be unbalanced. The AIM-120C-5 would just eat alive R-27ER slingers and have multi-launch capability against multiple targets.
The early F-15A MSIP program allowed TWS track of a single target at a time for AIM-120A/B initially… honestly an interesting compromise.
Exactly my point. there is a massive favour towards the Russians. They have the best SARH and IR homing missiles along with having a HMD well before any decent Western aircraft had them.
For now the only way for the USA to become competitive against the Russians is the AIM-9X BLK 1 and the AIM-120C-4.
Top tier was power crept way to hard and way too quickly
AIM-9X is absurd, and the AIM-120C-4 isn’t necessary.
The AIM-9M is sufficient, they should just get the AIM-120A/B right now. That would solve a lot of issues.
The best IR missiles go to AIM-9M and soon to be AAM-3.
Maneuverability isn’t everything.
Magic 2 & R-73’s lower-FOV IRCCM is still easily flared compared to 9M & AAM-3’s IRCCM.
There’s a discussion to be had here but I’m too tired to think of any counterpoints here. From what I can tell the block 1 -9X should be on par with the R-73. But for now a better version of the 9M should be added in along with a Br increase to 14.0 or something. Su-27 Vs FGR.2 is a very good idea and we need more 70’s designed aircraft Vs 50’s designed aircraft.
Yes of course maneuverability isn’t everything so is speed, drag, and motor. AAM-3 definitely beats the R-73 in the latter. But AAM-3 will not pull a 100° turn to hit a target moving parallel to the firing aircraft
Besides the AIM-9M seeker is much easier to flare than the R-73 at every range.
This comment is absurd. There are two entire generations of IRCCM between current missiles and AIM-9X type seeker.
The AIM-9X is capable of 90°+ off-boresight.
AIM-9M we have in-game is already performing as it should, if not overperforming. There is no better model of it that can come. “Push-ahead” if modeled as it should be would be very easy to defeat compared to what it has now.
The IRCCM it uses is called “Push Ahead”. When it senses a countermeasure, it will stop tracking and push the reticle further in the direction the target was last moving hoping to re-capture the target.
To defeat this is as simple as ejecting a flare forward of the direction of travel or continuously flaring while maneuvering to lose the lock.
In-game it is much harder to lose it’s track, and it can’t be decoyed to the flare at all… Also it should be more susceptible to accidentally tracking a missile fired off from the aircraft due to its’ design.
Again though because of this it can be defeated while in full afterburner while dumping flares. The R-73 is 100% going to kill you within 1.5km rear aspect.
Yes it did. I was wrong. I thought it used the seeker of the M-8/9 but obviously I misremembered. I wonder then if there was any prototypes that used more components of the M-8/9 instead of the motor and warhead.
I think it’s heavier about 500kg, a bit more fuel, and stronger landing gear. That’s about it?
It seems there’s some different about the radar but doesn’t seems like there’s any different right now
You can see a few people point out the different in this post