This is actually really funny because you either misunderstand what I said, or have no idea what I’m talking about.
A reversal can only happen if the bandit in the offensive position fails to properly manage their closure rate and leaves the control zone. If you manage to fail managing your closure rate in a jet that dumps energy faster than the defensive jet, in this case a MiG-29/Su-27 offensive against an F-16, that is very much a skill issue. You made a mistake, the enemy punished you for it by reversing you.
Assuming the REDFOR pilot actually properly manages their closure rate and remains in the control zone, the only threat to them is the F-16 outrating them, which is what the F-16 is good at, but is also what the R-73 helps counter, and the exact scenario people are referencing when they say you can sit on the F-16’s tail and keep them in a preflaring situation.
Yes, that’s because the F-16 outrates them both… as I’ve already said…
The whole point of the HMD+R-73 in this scenario is to limit the ability of the F-16 to actually to outrate you by threatening a HOBS shot with the R-73 if they continue to sit on their AB and/or stop pre-flaring.
We’re literaly debating a scenario where the MiG-29/Su-27 starts offensive against a defending F-16 right now. If you seriously don’t think you can win a fight where you start offensive in a MiG-29/Su-27 vs an F-16, thats the very definition of a skill issue.
The counter to an R-73 is much less consistent than defeating the AIM-9M seeker, which is countered by flaring and abruptly changing directions to cause the seeker to lose you in the process of blinding itself and continuing inertial guidance for a short period to avoid “seeing” flares. The counter to an R-73 is predominantly positional and lots of flares, as the seeker does not shut itself off, it only shrinks its FoV.
F-16 has same agility that Su-27/Mig-29 has, has better energy retention, better acceleration and sustained turn capabilities. İts whole lot more then just sustained fight.
Yes assuming R73’s will work fine or will not go to single flare dependin on the aspect.
You mean by simply pre flaring one or two times and get into Side aspect? Doesnt sound too much issue tbh, also let me remind you that as long as single flare sits in R-73’s fov missile itself will instantly goes to decoy instead of actual target.
While i was having dogfight against Mig-29G (which is basically best Mig-29 for dogfight) i was easily able to hold myself together despite having 2 drop tanks and more weight, meanwhile first R-73 that was fired from Mig-29 failed miserably and second one fired from J-11 went for my flares despite bein really slow and keeping my AB on.
Now surely you can give me good explanation for this i believe.
first missile from the mig-29 spun out completely and didn’t work properly. Second one you pre-flared unless you could tell the j-11 was shooting at you when you weren’t even looking at it.
Didnt even bother to pre flare J-11 cause i wasnt even paying attention to him until Mig-29 Lost its wing tip, even then when i started flaring as soon as i saw the missile my AB was still on for a good sec.
This is about the worst video you could post to try to make your point.
The first R-73 was dead off the rails because of its TVC failing it, it’s a bug, not a missile shortcoming.
The second is fired close to front aspect, and just outside of ideal range anyway. It’s about the only way an R-73 can be flared without preflaring when fired from within ideal range. It also very obviously was tracking the dead MiG-29, which seems to affect every IR missile, preferring teammates to enemies when both are available.
And neither of those shots demonstrate the usage in a dogfight which is what we are talking about
Denying hard evidence and making excuses i see, not surprised.
What happened to part where R-73 would always find its target in 1km range? Judging those claims it should’ve suppose to try to follow my lead at least.
İt was a clear side aspect shot.
R-73’s can also be flared by side aspect.
Missile changed its direction as soon as saw my flares despite i was afterburning for a couple seconds while in very slow position.
First Shot that was fired from Mig-29 suppose to demonstrate R73’s flare resistance and agility in dogfight, sadly R-73 failed like usually do in those situations.
No. It’s autopilot failed. From there it is impossible to tell whether the missiles tracking would have been good enough to defeat any flaring you did. It’s an autopilot bug that affects ALL TVC missiles, not just the R-73.
And again, the second missile just as likely, was never locked onto you off the rails, as it had a friendly target in the background, which all IR missiles seem to prefer.
You also conveniently posted a video without sensor view enabled. At this point in time, I would consider anything posted as evidence ,in regards to missile function or flight performance, without it enabled worth diddly-squat.
R-73’s are not reliable and will do such things as long as those bugs stay stills.
Like how other guy did posted video about defeating Aim-9M missile? Didnt saw any complains from you for that video.
You can deny and claim whatever you want cause i dont care after these reply but i will keep in mind making videos that has sensors on so i can avoid future accusations like this.
F-16 and F-15s have much better flight models than MiG-29 or Su-27.
It’s much faster to kill an Su-27 or MiG-29 just by going slower than it because neither plane is as good at recovering energy. As long as F-16 or F-15 aren’t rear-locked from R-73 at close range then it’s going to be in favor of 16/15.
I didn’t even watch that video, because I already know how to defeat 9Ms reliably and don’t just parrot the ‘muh unflarable, invisible missile’ but yes, it should have been with sensor view, assuming it’s not a ‘how to defeat 9Ms’ video from before the patch.
I think most of the problem is due to the instructor that tends to favor ratefighters, in sim these planes that have great aoa seem to be much more dangerous
It’s not only that it favours rate fighters themselves but how the values for the thing itself are chosen.
Why tf would the F-15 or the MiG-29 be limited to 22 degrees AoA of pull while F-16s get to pull 23.5?
Especially in the case of the MiG-29 that value is utter garbage as it is already far past the range at which the 29 rates well and at the same time doesn’t allow to get better one circle performance.
The F-15 could benefit a lot from either even higher AoA (would allow the excellent turn rate the F-15 has from 1000 to 600kph to get extended all the way to 400-500kph) or a bit lower (it’s less significant than the MiG-29 but being a stable aircraft F-15 still gains a lot from rate fighting at higher speeds)
Of course, it is possible to flare R73 in a side-aspect, I have no objection to this, but on the other hand, the Mig-29G could already have you in a disadvantageous or most advantageous position. The F16C is forced into a close gunfight situation whether he wants to or not, if that was my first video, R73 could have forced the F16C into a close combat with the Gripen and even the other F16C that is rushing forward.
9M cannot force you into an unfavorable or most advantageous position to force you into close combat if you do not want to.
