F-15 Eagle: History, Performance & Discussion

would make it not a copy paste aim7f

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Anyway, the current state of the Sparrow is due to balance (at the moment) not because of any lack of information. Therefore, I do not believe a technical report that can be made.

The developer indicated he is already fully aware of what sparrows can do & not do.

That sparrows do not have a propensity to magically explode upon signal loss and older sparrows will maintain their last control fin input until a signal is reestablished. That was originally modelled in-game and proved too powerful at the time and ever since Aim7 control fins return to neutral position when signal is dropped and a very short amount of time to reacquire a target track has remained.

The meta has changed and 6xR27ER platforms exist. The Aim7M does not just hold same course when CW signal is dropped from host aircraft. The Aim7M will actually fly the best course calculated based on last known target track or midcourse update. Thanks to its digital computer with autopilot capability.

@k_stepanovich indicated it is currently all based on balance, which I agree.
However, I believe at least either an extension of time to reacquire a target track is called for and leave the neutral fin reset for balance.

Or

Model the Aim7M to fly optimal routes regardless is CW illumination is lost. The Aim7M would only require a midcourse update and terminal guidance for precision (must lock the target before impact like the R27).

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I accidently deleted a post that ready EXACTLY as follows :

Sorry i will stop responding to you ig

ig here means “i guess” not insta. Im actually sorry tho that comes off as creepy and its my bad shouldnt have abbreviated

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We will never know since you deleted it immediately. Anyway what is your thoughts on the sparrow?

(will delete any mention of your deleted post now :) neutral fin & course reset)

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LMAO no problem, it really was all my bad. considering i dont have the sparrow i still dont think its very good. I havent died to one in recent memory, the inability to keep flying after a loss of lock would be devestating, half of my kills with the r27er lose lock halfway through. Being able to notch for one second letting it explode. And then recommit is pretty unfair to the sparrow user who has to hold the notch until the r27 passes by. Thus the need for some compensation i.e. trajectory shaping

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Yeah, R7ERs have been acting weird. Then again, The SU27 radar is not modelled completely yet?

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Afaik most radars havent completely recovered from the recent changes. Speaking of is the radar of the f15 modelled correctly yet?

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Speaking of is the radar of the f15 modelled correctly yet?

It’s not. MaMoran and Stepan have been discussing at length above.

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Another reminder too

Sparrows Fs & Ms have a horriilbe time guiding in close quarters do to weight of the dual boost and launching the missile flying too fast (what the F-15 does) has them compress at high Mach numbers.

damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. A dilemma.

I do believe it needs that auto pilot.

Seems it would be balanced if it got it. Sources back it up too. Would even out the su27 f15 disparity. +1 from me lol

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It’s also missing TWS right?

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Depends on how deep into the upgrades they go with it. I can see the F-15A being a frankenplane having some upgrades but not everything. Most of the discussion above is about the basics of how the APG-63 works, because right now it’s essentially a Phantom radar.

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Yeah its going to be a franken plane

They wanted an early non-AMRAAM F15 but they knew they couldn’t add one without flares. So we got an F15A MSIP (ish) and will probably get an F15C MSIP added when Amraam comes to the game.

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I can only speak from what I heard on the F-15J side about it being the APG-63 with PSP and from what I read about it, that should have TWS? I don’t know if the F-15A with MSIP has it though.

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From what I’ve seen, MSIP should have TWS. But like pyro said, they are probably going to frankenplane this early generation of Eagles and add in everything with the next set.

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I hope it does get added. As a Japan main, it’s the one radar feature I look forward to the most for ground RB.

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J will because its an F-15C and Japan doesn’t have multiple versions of it to add like the US does. (Hopefully with native missiles)

Israel might get lucky but they’ll probably have to grind an F15C Baz too.

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I hope so, though it’s an F-15C pre-MSIP.

From what I know there’s a few versions. There’s the current one, MSIP version, MTDP version, one with IRST (don’t remember which upgrade package it had), and any others I might have missed. There’s also the JSI program to give it AESA radar among other things, so there’s definitely a few variants Gaijin can add to fluff up the line.

I’m still in the XF-2/F-2 waiting room though.

F-15a/j wont get any HMDs anytime soon but does anyone have any information on the Baz? Isrealis had HMDs on their planes very much earlier was that the case on F-15?

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Still waiting for the HMS on the Kfir c.7… and the radar to be implemented correctly its a PD ACM only radar HUD like another jet. Just did not have a search function.

I do not see why the Baz a very old fighter in Israeli inventory did not have HMS either.