yeah its weird, and from limited testing the Su-27 appears to be underperforming, though this one is harder to test since Ive found it harder to hold a rate and altitude in the Su-27 compared to the F-15, but from the few times I’ve managed it seemed to be ~.6-.7g off which is a 2 deg/s difference in turnrate
F-15 I originally found ITR might be underperforming, but ITR is harder to test consistently since it’s “max lift” usually if ITR is underperforming STR is too though or vice versa.
15 is def underperforming right now if its getting out turned by a phantom
I heard the su27 should bleed less energy but i’m not sure about that, we need more info about it
does the j have a cockpit? it should have f15c displays
well if the STR is underperforming that would mean it is bleeding more speed than it should
yes i just forgot to quote your comment ab the str underperforming
did you watch defyns stream lmao. he was getting out turned by an f4f
i dont care if the su 27 outdoes it armament wise but it should not be this reminiscent of a flying brick
F-15 ripping seems to have been fixed, structural strength was increased, radar also got some buffs
Nice, is it pulling more than 11/12G without ripping ? Also has the FM improved all?
The FM is the same because it appears to be correct in AoA, sustained turn, instant turn rates. In fact, AoA is slightly better than it should be but that’s fine because it’s within margin of error.
The maximum overload is increased, so as of now the FM is good to go.
That’s good news, I don’t have access to my pc for a few weeks, is it competitive at all? I’ve heard bad things lol
It’s as I said so many times (and got flack for). The F-15A is not going to improve on existing aircraft in the tech tree, the F-14 is better at nose pointing and the F-15’s not as much of a powerhouse as people expected it to be. It is what it is, I tried to manage people’s expectations.
Now they overhyped it and disappointed themselves.
My original statement was that the F-15 is a direct side-grade to the F-14. It is variety for the tech tree, that is all.
I think people had mislead expectations for its dogfighting performance, imo I think of it like a sidegrade to the F-16C trading dogfighting performance (not to say its bad a dogfighting the 16C is just better) for superior BVR capability and acceleration/climb, also has a ton of CMs which is useful to counter 9Ms or preflare magic IIs and R-73s
Hopefully it gets the Bol rails too
i agree, but it should definitely be better at rating than it is right now
No, it isn’t. Sustained turn rates as shown by Draco are ~6.5G when they are ~6.2G according to the manual. Let’s not turn this into a 1000 page essay like I did the MiG-29 thread by allowing people to spread “guesstimates” from gut feeling.
If we want to make claims of “it feels like” we should back them up with testing and reference the real data.
Yeah my biggest issue was wing rip its gonna be more of a hit and run aircraft like the Phantoms back in the day then a pure dogfighter. Though if wing rip is fine now you can still do some decent turning when you really have to. At least that’s how im gonna use it.
