F-15 Eagle: History, Performance & Discussion

Gaijin dosent care about any of that

Just come to peace with the fact that it will be impossible to report the fm of 5th gens

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true

but they dont care much about reality either anymore

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Not really.
In game rafailure has HMD and better ARH.
Rapetor wouldnt be better outside of skillcheck amraam launches from long range and gun only dogfight.

It will. But only specific datapoints like acceleration

Tbf if rafale gets HMD there’s a very high likelihood that F-22 does as well. It tested it in 2014 and the MLU program is fitting it to Raptors in service in Hawaii this year. The real issue would the amraam just not pulling…

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any info on amraam off rail maneuverability/fin aoa performance?

i wish we could make our own radar presets

Well.
They can go with “early” F-22 and later one.
Wouldnt be suprised if first one will lack HMD.

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It just nerfed into ground, thats it

I wouldnt be too surprised

but they did give the rafail HMD and it was tested fairly early on f22 so it definitely should get HMD by their standards

but those standards are flexible and seem to always go against US planes

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idunno
i wouldnt mind getting rapetor way earlier even without HMD

Unfortunately no, it’s super classified

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Oh I agree, I could totally see it. I’m just saying that there is no guarantee

AIM-120A & B - Performance against manoeuvring targets too poor
AIM-120 C-5 max AOA wrong
AIM-120A & B - Can no longer pull 35 g

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F-22 early premium

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I really hope that in the near future, they will let us interchangeably choose which exact pylon we want equipped for already unlocked stock missiles for stock jets, as when we research and grind our way through the modifications…

Ex: F-15C MSIP II Eagle

When I finally reached and unlocked the AIM-9M modification to have the ability to equip more than the stock 2x, I couldn’t do it without sacrificing an AIM-120A hardpoint (inside outer wing), which is limited to only one pylon station. I can’t take off any of the under-fuselage pylons AIM-7Ms to have them swapped out for the stock 2x AIM-120A either. (extremely annoying).

Edit* I just checked the F-15C Golden Eagle’s modification window, and they STILL make you grind through the AIM-9L and AIM-7M at 14.3 BR (Bruh). Repeating the exact same pylon + worse missile problem usage once again…

OH LORD HEAVENS ABOVE… THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. 💀

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All the upgraded leagecy 4th gens have that issue

On the Su-30SM you also need to grind out sarh missiles

The only jets that don’t have that are the ones that aren’t able to take sarh missiles for example the rafale and eurofighter (albeit the EF still has to research the 9L)

sure

but 27er is nowhere near as bad as aim7m

you mean half the planes at the same BR as F15GE

(also we dont know if the new radar can guide sparrows so probably shouldnt have to grind through them)

APG-63(V)3 buff makes it marginally better than the Rafales radar.

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It’s a nice buff ! Don’t think it will make it that good or 14.3 worthy, a welcome change nonetheless

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After almost 1 whole year, the Rafale FINALLY gets competition on one of its dominating aspects.

Less of a big deal for RB, but for sim, this change is massive.

Rafale still violates the F-15C GE in 100% of fights though. I’d say this does make the F-15C GE 14.3 worthy, the issue is that the Rafale Fe3R as currently modelled is 15.3 worthy, so any BR balancing with the Rafale at 14.3 just doesn’t work cuz its massively under tiered.

If you compare it to the other 14.3’s:
vs EFT: Vastly superior radar, vastly superior CM load, worse FM
vs Su-30SM: Vastly superior radar, vastly superior CM load, superior FM, inferior missiles and missile load

Looks a lot more balanced.

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