me when ~2000 missile is better than 1974 missile
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is it already live or what
Apparently the AIM-54 should be capable of turning like 25Gs so that’s why I’m asking, did they only update the Sedjil and Fakour-90 or all three of them?
only with BTT
Which it really should have in game
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Same with any modern missile tbh but I dont think 50g AIM-120, 60G AAM-3 or 75G R-77 would be balanced or fun in any form
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You didn’t say anything about a 50G magic 2 with 0.42 gatewidth and the same IRCCM as the AIM-9M ( I forgot what it’s called lmao) so we can definitely have that right?
I didnt because even rn 50G is almost achievable with fin acceleration it has and also because Magic 2 doesnt have BTT irl
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Most missiles you listed use that in conjunction with secondary planes, the magic 2 does what the AIM-54 does and is constantly spinning along its axis to be able to pull max G in any direction rather than specific directions like the BTT on other missiles.
Not quite right. Magic 2 doesnt spin itself, its just the rear fins being free to move at any time of the flight so aerodynamically they always stay in X position instead +. AIM-54 BTT is quite literally bank to turn - same as AIM-120 for example.
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Ohhh I might have misunderstood what I read about it, or the translator was wrong because it was a French document.
That’s how regular BTT works right?
(Excuse the quality here) this is how I had it in my head the Magic 2 worked.
I thought the whole thing was in constant rotation to pull the optimal fin AOA when necessary. Thanks for correcting me!
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BTT is turning the missile to “X” configuration instead of “+” so you could achieve the highest Gs possible due to dual plane controls. Magic 2 uses a much simplier system for that and doesnt require any inputs from the flight computer.
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It doesn’t use BTT, that implies only one axis for pitch. It can pitch and roll at the same time and pitch in either + or x configuration as needed.
If required, it can orient x configuration towards target vector for higher AoA and G loading to ensure intercept.
Also no, the Magic 2 rotates itself in flight to keep x orientation towards target vector. The tail being free to spin prevents oscillations and discrepancies with guidance at high G loading.
It is free to rotate and fly in “+” configuration as well.
The whole assembly spinning is known as a rolling airframe missile. That is similar to the igla or stinger.
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Oh ok gotcha like the RIM-116 too
Alright, with the Sedjil and Fakour-90 receiving major buffs, what BR do we think Gaijin is gonna bump it to? I’m betting 12.7, or at least 13.0 with upgraded heatseekers.
I think it’s still not on live yet.
From the datamines seems like they changed Fakour to the correct 20 g / 22 deg, but changed Sedjil to 20 g / 16.27 deg, even though the document is literally for I-Hawk which is what the Sedjil essentially is.
Perhaps they are still experimenting with it …
Either way thanks for finding the document.
I never said it was. There was no update to live so why would anyone assume that?
Lmao
No problem.
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