Incredibly surprised that this hasn’t been reported before, the F-14 in-game is capable of carrying 2x AIM-54/Fakour-90s alongside 2x AIM-7s which should be physically impossible as the 2nd AIM-7 in-game is currently clipping into the front AIM-54/Fakour-90 adaptors.
Historical image to show an example of how it SHOULD look like, may be of course wrong
This is how it currently is in-game
It should be fixed. But it wouldn’t change anything because you would still be able to carry two Sparrows at the front and two Phoenix at the back without clipping.
So the loadout would be the same but the position of the missiles would be different.
There would most likely be wiring limitations for that, I’ve seen absolutely no images of US service F-14s carrying rear AIM-54s alongside frontally placed AIM-7s. It’s either been 2x AIM-54s at the front and 1x AIM-7s at the rear or just one type of missile entirely.
I could be completely wrong and I’d like to be proven wrong if that’s the case, from what I’ve seen the representation in-game is somewhat wrong in what it should be able to carry.
They didnt use it in service simply because of no operational need for such loadout and also due the fact that rear mounted AIM-54 made the F-14 very rear heavy. This config could create unwanted imbalance during takeoff and landing which could be fatal for carrier operations.
There wouldn’t because those stations are clearly wired for Sparrow and Phoenix.
There’s plenty of mixed loadouts you can make in game that probably weren’t not used IRL.
That loadout is impossible, because the coolant for the AIM-54 is only stored in the nose launcher.
It may be possible for the AIM-54C/ECCM version that does not use coolant.
There is no evidence that Fakour-90 needs coolant either.
It’s obviously uses solid state electronics so …
BTW, I had made a report about the wrong diameter and length here:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/62aqRWP8TtYp
But only the incorrect diameter was forwarded, and the incorrect length was not forwarded. Evidence for the incorrect length is provided in the section “1” in the report.
The AD-40A which is the export variant of the Fakour-90 is 3960mm (same length as AIM-54).
The only difference is that it is made lighter by the virtue of removing the booster grain/pour of the propellant.
But this shouldn’t result in a change of length as the boost and sustain grains/pours of the propellant are co-centric, not back to back.
Plus, the M112 motor by itself is only 2.678m (with “tail can and 3 fins”), so the total length of 3.960m makes complete sense.
https://mindexcenter.ir/sites/default/files/2022-07/ad40a-1.pdf
https://mindexcenter.ir/node/1427
REXUS 2 – THE FIRST EUROLAUNCH PROJECT: https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/17047516.pdf
That’s the motor + fins, so 3960 makes even more sense.
It is just asking but, Is the issue known to the developer?
I mean we have regular A model and B model but, still not fixed that issues for somehow.
There wouldn’t because those stations are clearly wired for Sparrow and Phoenix
Both the F-14A and F-14B were declassified if I recall, I’m not someone who bothers to look at manuals so if you can be asked go look into it a bit. Just funny how both Iran and the US were never pictured with such configuration, best to look at officials things to get the right picture.
Does anyone have any information on the Yasser rocket and if it ever had proximity? Seems kind of random to force players to use proximity on a propelled bomb making it somewhat useless.
The promixity fuze was removed, it works fine now.
@sudo_su1 Fakour and Sedjil turn radius significantly improved, overload increased to 20G
Pleasure working with ya there
Wait, so the Fakour-90 are basically just straight up better than the AIM-54 now lol? Did they increase the G overload of it or was it only the Sedjil and Fakour-90?
Hmm, might have to listen to the complainers now.
Oh wait no I don’t because they still can’t track if you literally just turn around and chaff, I could understand 12.7 as a side grade to the B maybe
me when ~2000 missile is better than 1974 missile
is it already live or what
Apparently the AIM-54 should be capable of turning like 25Gs so that’s why I’m asking, did they only update the Sedjil and Fakour-90 or all three of them?
only with BTT
Which it really should have in game
