Is just flat out worse in every single way than any vehicle within 1.0 br. Now the ONLY thing it had, the missiles, are worse than its competitors. Gaijin has three options. #1: Buff Fakour 90s to make them harder to notch, harder to dodge, and much faster, while giving it avionics upgrades to its radar and RWR.
#2: Lower F-14AM BR down to 13.0.
#3: Do nothing and let the plane rot.
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Just shove it back to 13.3 where it should have stayed
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or leave it put, but increase the BR of a LOT of other aircraft.
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Honestly not needed
It can go down simply because it’s a terrible vehicle even if other stuff goes up
If people weren’t absolute morons it would be balanced at 13.0 rn, but since they aren’t it can stay at 13.3
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Having rear-aspect-only AIM-9Ps for IR missiles at 13.7 is absolutely diabolical.
It 100% needs R-73s, as the MiG-29s got a while ago.
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R-73s are not saving it
Watch it go up to 14.0 with R-73s because it’s still doing really well at 13.7 according to player stats
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There aren’t many other options for the F-14A IRIAF.
A potential VNE higher speed at high altitude for the F-14A Tomcat was denied a year ago, apparently because it’s already realistic as it is.
The Fakours don’t have a alot of public information available, except for some Iranian excerpts and state media (which list Mach 5 speed for the Fakours).
The premium Su-30AMV/MKK have literally ruined the entire 13.3-14.3 bracket for all jets, including the brand new F-16XL event plane.
It’s pretty sad, but it’s the end for the Persian Tomcat.
With fewer people now playing it since the BR increase, the BR algorithm won’t change for it due to not enough statistics or data from players.
There is one
Not putting at 13.7
It’s already done, so that’s too late.
It can be reversed
We have seen this happen before
We should be pushing for a br rework
Much more achievable than fm changes etc
The problem with this terrible jet is that the skill floor is terribly low as well.
On paper is very subpar for 13.7, but since all you need is to spam fakours and hope for a few kills, the average and even below-average player will do fine with it.
The F-14A IRIAF is literally in 3rd place for kills per spawn of all the 13.7 jets in the last month.
Also in 2nd place for kills per death which I didn’t expect at all.
I doubt it will go down any time soon unless everybody starts notching those missiles
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F-2A players are cooking
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Yeah it isn’t the best after the update. But I’ve been playing it a lot lately too.
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MOVE EVERYTHING ELSE UP.
the main reason why a lot of dead in the water planes are in that way is because the compression this game suffers from could form a neutron star. Its very rare for a plane to actually be overtiered by an amount that makes it totally unplayable, i can only think of maybe 12ish aircraft that i can say with full confidence that they are heavily overtiered.
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Are you counting strike aircraft? It would probably inflate your number even higher.
Which jets do you think are overtiered out of curiosity?
With NE now being a thing they have their own niche if they are fortunate enough to be 8.7+
As a brit main its primarily british aircraft but some do appear in other trees and suffer similar or worse fates.
the Vampire family of aircraft (vampire is a 7.0-7.3 plane at 8.0, Sea Venom is a 7.3 plane at 7.7, Venom is a 7.7-8.0 plane at 8.7 for ungodly reasons, Aquilon is a 7.3 plane with early FOX-1 trapping it at 8.0)
Harriers (notably GR1 and FA2 but they are all pretty crap for their BRs, the AV-8A and matador do best because of the dubiously included countermeasure pods that might as well be full blown EW jammers for the BR)
BAE hawks (specifically the 200, 209 and RDA all being about a whole BR too high for what they are. T1a has its own issues too from being just below the sabre, could get away with 7.3 tbh but its a lot of fun despite the glitchy DM)
Jaguar, they are just kinda sad outside of very obscure situations and drink so much fuel you are stuck being morbidly obese to the point of being unable to abuse its good AOA
Whirlwind family (whirlwind is hardly a 3.0 at 3.7, welkin simply doesnt fit WTs low altitude nature so could be down at 4.0 and still suffer a miserable roll rate to work around)
Phantoms (specifically all the phantoms around 12.0 because the hornets ruin the matchmaker, highlighting the F-4J(UK) for blatantly missing parity with the US tree F-4J at 12.0 despite being quite literally the same plane and the F-4K (fg.2) for being pointless to exist with the FG.1 in game unless it gets 9L to be a post Falklands phantom)
honourable mention to the spitfires and zeros suffering from bad players constantly turnfighting the turnfighting one trick pony planes inflating their BRs
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Most of the fighters you mentioned aren’t undertiered imho. They can be suffering from compression, like many others, but not to the point that they should be lowered in BR without decompressing stuff around it.
Non-fighters are usually overtired. For the british tree specifically, the fighters (not including strike jets) from rank V up, I think only these are blatantly overtired:
Venom FB4
Sea Harriar FA 2
There are lots of mediocre jets, but more because of BR compression than them being overtiered.
Hunter F6 has no buissness being at 10.0 either and I think the Javelin is in a wierd spot where it probably should go down as well.
Im going to include the GR7 in the list as well. Yes its a strike aircraft, but since it got 9Ms, its basically a fighter at its BR way more than a strike aircraft in the more traditional sense.
The hunter F6 was overpowered at 9.7, and now its suffering from compression at 10.0.
The GR7 is a strike jet which I didn’t include, but altrough its one of the good ones and its fine at 12.3 imho.
and now its DOA at 10.0 with no CMs at all.